Ultralight Ultralight Rifles

[goalie]

An AR-15 style 22LR doesn't really excite me. If it was an actual 223/5.56 and at that weight I would be interested.

Jay

Yeah, I have a Ruger Charger 22lr for my light, short, fun, quiet slot

 

[The Guide]

Yeah, I have a Ruger Charger 22lr for my light, short, fun, quiet slot

I have a Winchester Wildcat that will run anything from 800 fps subs to the hottest 22lr rounds we've found and function right. Very accurate and fun gun for toting around in the summer. Subs from a 16" with a suppressor are a hoot.

Jay

 

[BART74]

I’m getting 3/4” 3 shot groups but you have to let it cool I don’t take much for the thin barrel to get hot

 

[ztc92]

Man this tread as been addictive and a little expensive but fun and I’m really happy about the way mine turned out 4lb as pictures and shoots better than I can thanks guys for the info on all yalls builds.

BCA bolt action upper?

 

[BART74]

BCA bolt action upper?

Yes

 

[robtattoo]

What type accuracy are you getting on these light weight builds? I have been fond of light weight bolts for years. I have a Barrett fieldcraft and several Kimber Montana’s. Thank

I'm averaging 1.5" for 10 shots out of my .300 Ham'r. 16" Wilson combat barrel, 130gr Speer Hot Cor, 2.5-10 SWFA UL.

I did, however, just switch out the scope for an SLX 5x microprism. That's dropped me down to 4lb exactly with 5 in the mag. Haven't had chance to shoot it yet.

 

[Thegman]

Man this tread as been addictive and a little expensive but fun and I’m really happy about the way mine turned out 4lb as pictures and shoots better than I can thanks guys for the info on all yalls builds.

What barrel and trigger are you using.

 

[Hardly_Hangin]

Any ideas if we will be able to load the new 6mm 117 TMK in our ULUL builds, or will COAL be too long to fit?

 

[BART74]

What barrel and trigger are you using.

Faxon 16” pencil and a mimic trigger I think that’s the name

 

[ezwy]

Any ideas if we will be able to load the new 6mm 117 TMK in our ULUL builds, or will COAL be too long to fit?

I don’t know if anyone has really even messed with the 108s
It seems like when you get above the 95ish grain class you compromise too much powder capacity (even with a long OAL) and the velocity is too lacking.

 

[KyleR1985]

Any ideas if we will be able to load the new 6mm 117 TMK in our ULUL builds, or will COAL be too long to fit?

6arc yes.

6x45 - only if you want to shoot subsonic

 

[Hardly_Hangin]

6arc yes.

6x45 - only if you want to shoot subsonic

Are you saying they will fit in a ulul repeater chambered for 6arc, or are you saying id have to get a 6arc bolt gun?

 

[KyleR1985]

Are you saying they will fit in a ulul repeater chambered for 6arc, or are you saying id have to get a 6arc bolt gun?

The bullet doesn’t exist. So I wouldn’t allocate too much brain space on it. Plus it’s Sierra.

But, it should be fine stuck in a 6ARC case. It’s going to be long, so you’ll lose some case capacity in AR platform.

My point was that the case capacity loss in 6ARC AR will likely be a trade off people will make. In 6x45, it will fill half the case.

The bullet is going to be over 1.2” long. You’re pretty much limited to 2.39” max without modifying upper and barrel extension. .223 case is 1.75” long.

6ARC case is a .25” shorter so you have more room to work(less case capacity to be eaten up). But the bullet base will still be below the shoulder to case junction. I’m not saying this is optimal. I’m saying someone can probably find a powder and barrel length combination that makes sense for them.


I just don’t really see the point. ULUL needs speed not BC.

 

[packgoatguy]

If anyone is interested, I may be able to get the guy who loaded the 77TMK 223 (for the previously known "stand1" brand) to get a good discount if buying a larger bulk order... 5k-10k rounds. If I recall correctly, the stand one retail pricing was around $36 for a box of 20... plus shipping... pretty pricey, so in the past, I had only bought and used sparingly. But it was way faster and more accurate than anything I could load myself... so I kept some around specifically for hunting. (2750fps 77tmk in a 16 inch barrel).

I have no need for thousands of rounds... but 300-500 hundred more at a decent price would be appealing. So if anyone else wants to go in on it, send me a PM and let me know what you think would be a decent pricing if we could get it... I'm sure it won't be anything close to "plinking" ammo prices... but this would be premium ammo.

 

[ezwy]

If anyone is interested, I may be able to get the guy who loaded the 77TMK 223 (for the previously known "stand1" brand) to get a good discount if buying a larger bulk order... 5k-10k rounds. If I recall correctly, the stand one retail pricing was around $36 for a box of 20... plus shipping... pretty pricey, so in the past, I had only bought and used sparingly. But it was way faster and more accurate than anything I could load myself... so I kept some around specifically for hunting. (2750fps 77tmk in a 16 inch barrel).

I have no need for thousands of rounds... but 300-500 hundred more at a decent price would be appealing. So if anyone else wants to go in on it, send me a PM and let me know what you think would be a decent pricing if we could get it... I'm sure it won't be anything close to "plinking" ammo prices... but this would be premium ammo.

Have you used them in the past? And what kind of velocities were you getting?

 

[packgoatguy]

Have you used them in the past? And what kind of velocities were you getting?

2750fps 77tmk in a 16 inch barrel

 

[Ajsomp]

If anyone is interested, I may be able to get the guy who loaded the 77TMK 223 (for the previously known "stand1" brand) to get a good discount if buying a larger bulk order... 5k-10k rounds. If I recall correctly, the stand one retail pricing was around $36 for a box of 20... plus shipping... pretty pricey, so in the past, I had only bought and used sparingly. But it was way faster and more accurate than anything I could load myself... so I kept some around specifically for hunting. (2750fps 77tmk in a 16 inch barrel).

I have no need for thousands of rounds... but 300-500 hundred more at a decent price would be appealing. So if anyone else wants to go in on it, send me a PM and let me know what you think would be a decent pricing if we could get it... I'm sure it won't be anything close to "plinking" ammo prices... but this would be premium ammo.

That would be interesting and I could be convinced for a bunch

 

[doverpack12]

22 ARC ULUL is shaping up. Have a 10x SWFA on it for now. If this load repeats and confirms at distance I’ll put the PA 5X Microprism I just picked up from Optics Planet.

75 ELDM, going over 2800 hoping for 2850. Chrono was fighting me with some grass blowing in the wind so no readings on these 5 shots. I know I’m over 2800.
If this repeats I have terminal velocity to 650 yards.

 

[doverpack12]

2750fps 77tmk in a 16 inch barrel

I had great accuracy with 77 TMK in the Shaw portless 16” with Leverevolution. I was right at 2750 fps, it was stout.
I went with a little more mild load of AR Comp that replicates AAC 77 TMK velocity of 2565

 

[Gettincloser]

22 ARC ULUL is shaping up. Have a 10x SWFA on it for now. If this load repeats and confirms at distance I’ll put the PA 5X Microprism I just picked up from Optics Planet.

75 ELDM, going over 2800 hoping for 2850. Chrono was fighting me with some grass blowing in the wind so no readings on these 5 shots. I know I’m over 2800.
If this repeats I have terminal velocity to 650 yards.
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I have been running the 22ARC for 1 years now and I am truly impressed. I have only run the 88gr eldm through it and took a nice spike at 305 yards. It performed perfectly! I am going to test the 80gr eldx on some hogs after thanks giving. Once I build an ul ul, I might need (2)! One in 223 wilde and 1 in 22 ARC. Most of my hunting is under 200 yards so the 223 is more than adequate... but I sure do like the 22 ARC!