Troy Sessions
FNG
My comments are in reference to the following discussion initiated by Larry Bartlet in a previous thread.
Wonder how he's justifying trying to patent Kuiu's game bag design with handles? That's just shameful, Sessions.
When you patent a product the process includes disclosing "prior artwork" that may resemble or is similar to the patent itself. Be interesting to see where this goes. The attachment was forwarded to me by a Rokslide member who showed him the Kuiu game bags he was using with handles, and now Sessions is touting that he created the concept?!
When the snowball catches up to this loser it's gonna be heavy!
It's time to expose the appalling behavior of LB. I have maintained the high ground until now.
It’s important to understand that the patent process is far more complicated than you may think. The concept behind the bags you claim as your own has been around for almost 100 years. The first "bags" used were the old burlap bean and barley grain bags utilized by farmers in the early 1900s. Both my great-great-grandfather and grandfather used these bags back in the 1920s, as I'm sure all our grandparents did. Therefore, you have no I-Property here.
Sourcing a raft requires contacting a reputable manufacturer and thoroughly reviewing their designs (product line). While you can submit your concepts , the manufacturer's skilled engineers take charge of the design and development process using CAD software for testing and potential production of the raft.
Prior to accepting your request, the team conducts thorough testing, engineering, and construction of the raft. Following acceptance, you have the option to request additional D rings, lashing points, extra seats, and extra abrasion patches, seat cushions, among other customizations.
We both understand how free commerce operates, and that is what terrifies you the most. Imagine if people knew that manufacturers worldwide are actively seeking individuals to sell "their" intellectual property to (product line) – it would revolutionize their perspective and set them free from so called "name brands".
My lawyers have thoroughly researched the patenting process, and it is clear that Kuiu's bags are not even under consideration. In fact, the only patents we found relevant were from Caribou Gear and a cadaver bag company. Neither of them includes a handle at the bottom of the bag or a double drawstring at the top. My 35-page patent write-up explicitly describes a handle at the bottom of the bag, not at each end where the zipper could be, but at the bottom of the bag.
I want to make it clear that while in the past I bought and used your bags for many years, the design and functionality have not fully met my needs. Although the synthetic material is durable, the lack of a bottom handle for easy loading onto my plane, boats, and canoes prompted me to make my own bags. While I appreciate the material, it's important to note that the design of the bag was not influenced by your company or anyone else for that matter.
You haven't heard from other raft "brands" because we all buy from the same manufacturer, and they know how the process works. These manufacturers sale these rafts to companies all around the world and everyone reading this can also save a TON of money and buy from them as well.
Keep spouting off Larry I will not be silent anymore...
Wonder how he's justifying trying to patent Kuiu's game bag design with handles? That's just shameful, Sessions.
When you patent a product the process includes disclosing "prior artwork" that may resemble or is similar to the patent itself. Be interesting to see where this goes. The attachment was forwarded to me by a Rokslide member who showed him the Kuiu game bags he was using with handles, and now Sessions is touting that he created the concept?!
When the snowball catches up to this loser it's gonna be heavy!
It's time to expose the appalling behavior of LB. I have maintained the high ground until now.
It’s important to understand that the patent process is far more complicated than you may think. The concept behind the bags you claim as your own has been around for almost 100 years. The first "bags" used were the old burlap bean and barley grain bags utilized by farmers in the early 1900s. Both my great-great-grandfather and grandfather used these bags back in the 1920s, as I'm sure all our grandparents did. Therefore, you have no I-Property here.
Sourcing a raft requires contacting a reputable manufacturer and thoroughly reviewing their designs (product line). While you can submit your concepts , the manufacturer's skilled engineers take charge of the design and development process using CAD software for testing and potential production of the raft.
Prior to accepting your request, the team conducts thorough testing, engineering, and construction of the raft. Following acceptance, you have the option to request additional D rings, lashing points, extra seats, and extra abrasion patches, seat cushions, among other customizations.
We both understand how free commerce operates, and that is what terrifies you the most. Imagine if people knew that manufacturers worldwide are actively seeking individuals to sell "their" intellectual property to (product line) – it would revolutionize their perspective and set them free from so called "name brands".
My lawyers have thoroughly researched the patenting process, and it is clear that Kuiu's bags are not even under consideration. In fact, the only patents we found relevant were from Caribou Gear and a cadaver bag company. Neither of them includes a handle at the bottom of the bag or a double drawstring at the top. My 35-page patent write-up explicitly describes a handle at the bottom of the bag, not at each end where the zipper could be, but at the bottom of the bag.
I want to make it clear that while in the past I bought and used your bags for many years, the design and functionality have not fully met my needs. Although the synthetic material is durable, the lack of a bottom handle for easy loading onto my plane, boats, and canoes prompted me to make my own bags. While I appreciate the material, it's important to note that the design of the bag was not influenced by your company or anyone else for that matter.
You haven't heard from other raft "brands" because we all buy from the same manufacturer, and they know how the process works. These manufacturers sale these rafts to companies all around the world and everyone reading this can also save a TON of money and buy from them as well.
Keep spouting off Larry I will not be silent anymore...
Just fight and make up already.
