Trail Access Restrictions - No UTVs = No Horses

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Side by sides are useful sometimes in some places, and I don’t necessarily hate them, but they are an absolute scourge on public lands during hunting season, and my hope is they are banned in more places during hunting season. They create a race to the bottom. As the forest gets louder, game goes further back, more people buy side by sides to get further back, and the cycle repeats itself.
 
@ThorM465 One of the primary reasons the hunting we have today is because of the conservation mindedness of our forefathers. Wildlife requires wild lands and habitats. We fund most of that with our equipment and ammo purchases as well as our license dollars. You can’t have that if the lands are overrun with motorized vehicles. The impact of a sxs or quad is not only to the land, it is also the air (exhaust/pollution)) and to the ears (sound). This has been a continuous and historic debate about the meaning of freedom and access, privileges and rights. Wildlife struggles enough, do we need to add more to its struggle to survive? It’s not a big leap to understand why horses would be allowed and not motorized vehicles. Its about the animals…its not about you
 
I can't afford a sxs, nor even afford to have horses (or be around the crazy horse ladies) so I agree with you. If I have to work harder should everyone else since I can't have what they have.

(I personally think most atv's/sxs's should only be limited to FS roads only, and gravel roads.)
 
Hey I was around there too. Laced them up and went to the where the elk were with zero thought about whether the other guys had horses or not. Sure the pack out sucked but that's part of the reason elk like it there.

Nothing is worse than hearing a damn sxs all day and seeing people trying to drive them anywhere wide enough for the tires to fit though.
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Looks like he parked himself just right:)
 
Hey I was around there too. Laced them up and went to the where the elk were with zero thought about whether the other guys had horses or not. Sure the pack out sucked but that's part of the reason elk like it there.

Nothing is worse than hearing a damn sxs all day and seeing people trying to drive them anywhere wide enough for the tires to fit though.
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And it’s amazing how soundly the elk sleep in areas where they’re not bothered by utv noise pollution, like this one in the picture. Hell, looks like he’s feeling secure enough to sleep in a bit after sun rise…Sunday morning maybe?
 
This year I was hunting behind a tank trap on a closed road. At least once a day I'd hear a SxS cruising along it because they wrestled their way around the tank trap. I did get to tell two guys "hey man, I was up here yesterday and the FS law enforcement officer was writing a guy a ticket for being back here"

Mom always said don't lie but I think she approved of that one.
 
While we are at it, let’s ban “world class athletes” too… It’s not fair that they can go farther than I can.
Don’t even get me started on those sniper wannabes at the range every weekend shooting their rifle when I’m at the golf course.

It would be a lot more fair if you couldn’t legally shoot animals past 250 yards. /s
 
The solution to competing with horses is very simple. Horses are super limited on what kind of terrain they can negotiate off trail. Thick timber, blowdown, scree, rocks, boulder fields, cliff lines, willow choked areas, avalanche chutes and terrain steeper than 35 degrees are all horse proof. Simply go where horses can't go and you won't compete with horses.
 
I love this time of year (and tag draw season), just to hear the dumbest ideas possible related to hunting & access from NR. The cream filling between those seasons is posts asking why R won't help or have an attitude towards NR.
 
Man the freaking side by side deal is getting really obnoxious. I even have a couple guys in my neighborhood that ride them around with their kids in the evening sometimes. There's a couple guys that pick up their kids at school. It really gets old.

I've hunted with horses and mules, my dad's always kept horses. There is an advantage to getting deeper in but I actually prefer going in without them except for the pack out. You have a lot more logistics and a lot more to worry about when you take animals. It's pretty much going to be someone's job for the trip.

I much prefer cowboys and horseback riding types to the Dbags on loud side by sides.
 
Im ready for motorized vehicles to be restricted to the same roads as cars/trucks.

One of my first western hunting experiences was some fat sitka'd out douchebags blasting their four-wheelers over the top of me very far from any trails.
Makes it worse if they're wearing $500 pants 😂
 
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