Toyota vs SxS

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Day hunt gear and hopefully a critter on the return drive is all that's needed.

This is Rokslide. You’re only supposed to use a backpack.

 

[WeiserBucks]

This is Rokslide. You’re only supposed to use a backpack.

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There's 3 backpacks in my pic That was day 2 of packing a bull out of a shithole.

 

[Steve300xcw]

I've seen the same and I don't get it. People in vehicles of every kind throw in everything they own and the straight up road hunters seem to always have a 9 day supply of beer and ice along for the "hunt."

Its the overlanders. I blame them. Near every tacoma/jeep/sxs and even some of the full size rigs. Fuel jugs/water jugs/ axes/ short handle shovels/ 152 light pods/ traction boards/tents/awnings most of which have never been used... Why does it all need bolted to the outside of the rig? wtf are those cables goin from the roof rack down to the front bumper?

 

[Weldor]

Its the overlanders. I blame them. Near every tacoma/jeep/sxs and even some of the full size rigs. Fuel jugs/water jugs/ axes/ short handle shovels/ 152 light pods/ traction boards/tents/awnings most of which have never been used... Why does it all need bolted to the outside of the rig? wtf are those cables goin from the roof rack down to the front bumper?

Never seen water or fuel in any of them. Paint is still on the shovel. Looks cool though

 

[HuntHarder]

Im glad most concur that Bilstein 5100's are pure trash. I hated them on my 2500 and tacoma. On my 1500, I went King's with longer travel UCA's. Now that is a comfortable ride. I put Fox's on my Honda 1k SxS. Huge difference over stock. Stock I might as well been driving an Osh Kosh. I LOVE my SxS when I use it. Weather, dust and terrain dependant for me. I do have spots here in AZ, that I refuse to take my pickup. It's over an hour on a SxS and in a pickup would probably be close to double maybe 1.5 and you'd be pissing blood by the time you got there. Perfect world, you have all 3. A nice pickup to haul with, a Tacoma and a SxS. If I went Tacoma, I would probably trailer it.

 

[Steve300xcw]

Never seen water or fuel in any of them. Paint is still on the shovel.

yup

Looks cool though

nope

 

[RichardSkinner]

Its the overlanders. I blame them. Near every tacoma/jeep/sxs and even some of the full size rigs. Fuel jugs/water jugs/ axes/ short handle shovels/ 152 light pods/ traction boards/tents/awnings most of which have never been used... Why does it all need bolted to the outside of the rig? wtf are those cables goin from the roof rack down to the front bumper?

It's the virtue signaling of the offroad world. Gotta let people know you think you're rugged.

The batman tool belt of trinkets strapped outside is hilarious. Especially, as you said, when there is still factory paint on the shovel heads and stuff.

 

[KurtR]

I got the sxs for ice fishing mainly i want to be able to pull out of the heated garage and drive on lake oahe. I got a general next one will be a ranger northstar cab seals up way better. I fished more last year with it than the last 10. I used it few time pulling stuff in muddy fields to shoot ducks and geese. Easy for me to work on. I can see an argument for both i use the sxs alot for running errands around town and dog training to.

 

[Steve300xcw]

It's the virtue signaling of the offroad world. Gotta let people know you think you're rugged.

Had some buddies who ran up to a lil mountain lake for the day. Bone stock tacoma, just eased their way up in there.

Some offroad youtube/instagram wannabees ended up there after they did. They were blown away that a stock rig could drive up a bumpy dirt road

 

[hunthikecamp]

Its the overlanders. I blame them. Near every tacoma/jeep/sxs and even some of the full size rigs. Fuel jugs/water jugs/ axes/ short handle shovels/ 152 light pods/ traction boards/tents/awnings most of which have never been used... Why does it all need bolted to the outside of the rig? wtf are those cables goin from the roof rack down to the front bumper?

I could see the logic of the fuel jugs on the outside, i've thought about throwing a gallon jug or so in my truck bed just to have but don't really want everything reeking of gas fumes, plus i'll end up sleeping in there...

but then my brain goes to "if i need 2 gallons of fuel to get me out of some shit, I made poor decisions." so i don't make poor decisions and fill up in town before heading to the mtns. crazy thought...

Maybe something for the SxS and truck discussion, what's the range on a SxS with a full tank of gas? i can get a couple hundred miles out of my tacoma gas tank, even at mtn mpg.

 

[WeiserBucks]

Maybe something for the SxS and truck discussion, what's the range on a SxS with a full tank of gas? i can get a couple hundred miles out of my tacoma gas tank, even at mtn mpmpg.

My SXS seems to average about 20 mpg.

 

[Steve300xcw]

I could see the logic of the fuel jugs on the outside,

Yea, but most of them have nothing in them

 

[Weldor]

Never really paid attention, I'll watch it this Elk season and see. Should be a good test with variable terrain and speeds.

 

[hunthikecamp]

Yea, but most of them have nothing in them

Yeah, trying to play devils advocate but failing. I completely agree with you. Not to mention driving around with it on the back like some people do, you get rear ended and you get 2 explosions for the price of 1, for everyone's sake I hope they stay empty

 

[FoggyScope]

I love my tacoma. I have 5100s an add a leaf and 33 inch tires. I can go farther than a sxs can go that doesnt have a width restiction.

You do not need kings and new arms and all the overland junk to go hunting. Put on a lift, put on tires, and run the tires at 20 psi. Get a truck with sway bar disconnects or take out the sway bars. If you want comfort in any offroad truck let the tires become part of the suspension. In my experience as a tire tech and then a mechanic and someone who offroads for fun you dont run any danger of debeading a tire until about 15psi and then you still have to try hard. You will wear your tires faster driving on the road. But i drive my tacoma 80mph for 3 hours to go hunting every weekend and leave my tires aired down all hunting season and still get 40k miles a set.
DO NOT GET A SPACER THAT BOLTS TO THE TOP OF THE STRUT. You need to get a spring lift, 5100s, or true coilovers. If you bolt a spacer in your bump stop is essentially in the wrong spot and if you bottom out hard youll rip the shock off. A lot of toyotas come in on a wrecker around here like that. If you lift with springs theres no problems.

Theres nothing i enjoy more than being comfy and warm my whole drive to go hunting and to not hear the annoying noise of a sxs all day.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

I love my tacoma. I have 5100s an add a leaf and 33 inch tires. I can go farther than a sxs can go that doesnt have a width restiction.

You do not need kings and new arms and all the overland junk to go hunting. Put on a lift, put on tires, and run the tires at 20 psi. Get a truck with sway bar disconnects or take out the sway bars. If you want comfort in any offroad truck let the tires become part of the suspension. In my experience as a tire tech and then a mechanic and someone who offroads for fun you dont run any danger of debeading a tire until about 15psi and then you still have to try hard. You will wear your tires faster driving on the road. But i drive my tacoma 80mph for 3 hours to go hunting every weekend and leave my tires aired down all hunting season and still get 40k miles a set.
DO NOT GET A SPACER THAT BOLTS TO THE TOP OF THE STRUT. You need to get a spring lift, 5100s, or true coilovers. If you bolt a spacer in your bump stop is essentially in the wrong spot and if you bottom out hard youll rip the shock off. A lot of toyotas come in on a wrecker around here like that. If you lift with springs theres no problems.

Theres nothing i enjoy more than being comfy and warm my whole drive to go hunting and to not hear the annoying noise of a sxs all day.

We've ran the method wheels with "bead grip" lips on the rims, regularly at 10-12 PSI and no issues yet. My Jeep tires are almost never above 20 PSI unless it's a long trip somewhere on the highway.

 

[dster3]

I'll throw in my 2 cents - I think a tacoma would be a lot more practical.

I'll try not to repeat what has been said too much. Suspension is a rabbit hole.

Airing down will help a lot.

I run method race wheels with their bead grip texturing on the inside - I've seen videos of guys running them down to single digits. I usually stick around 10 - 15 depending on the terrain. Never had any issue.

Mounting a compressor under the hood, lines to all four wheels, something like a Morr Flate kit will cut down on the hassle that is airing up and airing down.

While you might not need a full bumper, a winch would be advisable - SDHQ makes hidden/semi hidden winch mounts. Even a little bit of snow and mud can turn a decent road into a long night.

 

[ShootOkHuntWorse]

jeep/tacoma. Three year old plus wife plus baby, it’s the difference of going hunting at all vs staying at home. There’s maybe 4 trails that are 50” or less that I can’t go on. And the heated seats during the late season are a blessing. I’m a whiner.

 

[Steve300xcw]

I usually stick around 10 - 15 depending on the terrain. Never had any issue.

I've ran down to 7psi without issue. Around here there's no need for that unless a guy is in the snow though.

Mounting a compressor under the hood, lines to all four wheels, something like a Morr Flate kit will cut down on the hassle that is airing up and airing down.

I'm cheap and also in no hurry. Gimme a valve stem tool and a m18 air compressor.

While you might not need a full bumper, a winch would be advisable - SDHQ makes hidden/semi hidden winch mounts. Even a little bit of snow and mud can turn a decent road into a long night.

Winches are nice, no doubt about that. I wouldnt put one on the must have list though.

 

[180ls1]

I love my tacoma. I have 5100s an add a leaf and 33 inch tires. I can go farther than a sxs can go that doesnt have a width restiction.

It really depends on the SXS. Some yes, others will run circles around your truck.

5100 are also a poor low speed shock for comfort. I have them.