Tired of former pro athletes turned hunting celebs?

[fngTony]

@Augie stop kicking rocks at members

 

[Huntin_GI]

Yes.

 

[CMP70306]

in the original post I specifically mentioned that I was not going to be naming individuals or the sellout companies that sponsor them. If you really have to look that hard then I question your intelligence.

I have no idea who you’re talking about because I don’t follow sports and have no idea who the crossovers are. The only hunting related people that come to mind off the top of my head are Aaron Davidson, Steve Rinella, Joe Rogan, Sydney Wells, Hanna Barron, Joseph Von Benedict and Beau Martonik. I see some of their stuff on YouTube and Instagram or listen to some of their podcasts but with the exception of Gunwerks I don’t follow any of them closely.

Outside of that I can’t say I really know of any hunting personalities and can’t name 99% of the people selling stuff in ads nor do I particularly care to find out. I’m interested in the products, not the people selling them.

Oh and Greg McHale, found him while I was looking for reviews on the RRS Ascend 14. The couple episodes of his show I watched were pretty good from what I remember.

 

[JoMa]

How do you know these former athletes/celebrities have “little to no actual hunting experience” and “lack the credentials as an outdoorsman”? At what point does someone obtain sufficient experience and credentials to participate in a hunting channel or podcast?

 

[Augie]

See that’s where we differ. You follow people, I don’t. I think you should try it, I bet your feelings wouldn’t get hurt as much.

Reading comprehension failing you again, sir. I don't follow, simply trying to understand why others do blindly follow these idiots.

 

[Augie]

Even if you choose to ignore them yourself these people, the social media culture, the self serving attention seekers have an impact on hunting culture. I’d think anyone who hunts would perceive that impact as largely a negative impact.

I have zero mainstream social media accounts yet i still deal with ever more crowded public hunting lands and trailheads full of guys covered head to toe in brand new Sitka or First Lite and Crispi boots without dirt on em.

I think that’s sorta what the OP might be driving at, their impact? Hunt quietly, leave no trace is largely becoming a rare perspective out there.

Precisely, thank you for grasping the main idea here haha. The influence these people have creates a far greater negative impact than they the individual pose. Having that kind of influence in the hunting sphere while being a part hunting for all the wrong reasons just breads more of the same which is the "look at me for profit" mentality. The individuals that say just ignore it are the same people who will be complaining when their ability to hunt or have an uncrowded enjoyable hunt gets pulled from them while sitting idly by.

 

[Trackerbacker]

Learn how to unplug.

It's amazing once you learn to disconnect, how suddenly fewer issues exist.

Might come from just worrying about your own life rather than others...




Relative to pro athletes, you are generally talking genetic specimens. It wouldn't shock me if they picked up a fishing pole and out catfished me on home field advantage. Some people are naturally better.

But! Good coaches can't play, and good players don't make good coaches.




Move on, change the channel, or ignore it.

 

[KurtR]

 

[KurtR]

Precisely, thank you for grasping the main idea here haha. The influence these people have creates a far greater negative impact than they the individual pose. Having that kind of influence in the hunting sphere while being a part hunting for all the wrong reasons just breads more of the same which is the "look at me for profit" mentality. The individuals that say just ignore it are the same people who will be complaining when their ability to hunt or have an uncrowded enjoyable hunt gets pulled from them while sitting idly by.

So what are you doing to stop it other than chirp on Rokslide?

 

[*zap*]

God bless everyone......

 

[Augie]

Are you limiting your dislike just to athletes?

I would think that Newberg and other Youtube cowboys have done much more damage to your ability to get tags.

No I'm not limiting my dislike to just athletes as influencers in general create this problem. My issue pertaining to this thread though is that you have already famous individuals with large followings suddenly start hunting and instead of just enjoying the activity, decide to profit off of it. They do ads, take free gear and start their own YouTube channels/podcasts detailing their hunting experiences, giving new inexperienced hunters advice with no real experience to back it said advice. The YouTube cowboys are bad enough, but they don't have the reach say former big name NFL athletes or UFC fighters have.

 

[Augie]

Mister, no one is ordering or paying you to watch so an so’s YouTube channel or subscribe. You don’t have to watch it, truly.

and I don't, yet someone is keeping them in business

 

[Augie]

Learn how to unplug.

It's amazing once you learn to disconnect, how suddenly fewer issues exist.

Might come from just worrying about your own life rather than others...




Relative to pro athletes, you are generally talking genetic specimens. It wouldn't shock me if they picked up a fishing pole and out catfished me on home field advantage. Some people are naturally better.

But! Good coaches can't play, and good players don't make good coaches.




Move on, change the channel, or ignore it.

You can unplug all you want, but the consequences of these actions are felt when you go to buy tags, park at the trailhead, etc.

 

[sacklunch]

I don’t watch any hunting shows so I wouldn’t know who is doing what. I hunt public land and can’t use most of what they try to sell so I don’t watch. The shows are 5 minutes of hunting and 25 of advertising for whatever they are selling.

This is the way.

This is also how we all put an end to this nonsense of social media influences ruining what was once great.

Just stop watching. Simple as that.

 

[Augie]

This is the way.

This is also how we all put an end to this nonsense of social media influences ruining what was once great.

Just stop watching. Simple as that.

I agree whole heartedly, and I myself no longer watch or listen to any of the garbage influencer/hunting companies put out. That's why in my initial post I asked who is actually buying into all this BS and supporting it. Social media/influencers is nothing more than a cancer.

 

[Szwampdonkey]

How do you know these former athletes/celebrities have “little to no actual hunting experience” and “lack the credentials as an outdoorsman”? At what point does someone obtain sufficient experience and credentials to participate in a hunting channel or podcast?

30 years minimum.

 

[wannakillabigbull]

I grew up in western CO where most people I knew either hunted or had an understanding of it, but I now live on the front range and work almost entirely with transplants from across the country who know almost nothing about hunting. I will say that the celebrities that are promoting hunting at least help to inform the uninformed about some of the pros of hunting as a conservation tool. When people from work find out I hunt, they'll usually say something along the lines of "Oh ya I saw some episode or podcast from so-and-so celebrity who I like and they were hunting, which I think is cool now. I see how the process works now." Like others have said, it's better than the response being that they hate hunting and try to push some woke agenda on me. For me the pros outweigh the cons. I'd rather struggle to draw tags because of more hunters than struggle to draw tags because the 90% of the population who doesn't hunt decided to vote to ban it because they don't understand the pros.

 

[bohntr]

Even if you choose to ignore them yourself these people, the social media culture, the self serving attention seekers have an impact on hunting culture. I’d think anyone who hunts would perceive that impact as largely a negative impact.

I have zero mainstream social media accounts yet i still deal with ever more crowded public hunting lands and trailheads full of guys covered head to toe in brand new Sitka or First Lite and Crispi boots without dirt on em.

I think that’s sorta what the OP might be driving at, their impact? Hunt quietly, leave no trace is largely becoming a rare perspective out there.

Uhmmmm, this IS a social media account/site. Just saying.

 

[fngTony]

@Augie stop kicking rocks at members

This ^ was 18 minutes before this following comment from you. Last time I’m telling you.

Reading comprehension failing you again, sir. I don't follow, simply trying to understand why others do blindly follow these idiots.

 

[4090Sharps]

I agree whole heartedly, and I myself no longer watch or listen to any of the garbage influencer/hunting companies put out. That's why in my initial post I asked who is actually buying into all this BS and supporting it. Social media/influencers is nothing more than a cancer.

Agreed. A cancer. I recently saw a member post about a successful out-of-state hunt after years of perseverance, and was really excited for them and their quiet persistence and success. And then they followed up with a link to their YouTube channel and hunt, and I found myself feeling much differently. I don't understand why so many feel the need to broadcast across social media like that.

Someone else here said it well, and they may well have been quoting another person, calling the social media influencers "modern day market hunters".