Tikka T3 too light

[35WhelenAI]

I "enjoy" a shoulder thumping magnum and it has never kept me from a successful hunt, but I would never dream of shooting from the bench without a PAST recoil pad at the bench. For each time a brake or a suppressor, or "just shoot a smaller cartridge" is offered, a recoil shield like the PAST pad needs to be mentioned in the same sentence.

Not saying the brake or suppressor is not an option. Thinking practically it doesn't make sense to me to brake it and need to wear ear plugs in the field (how do those get in your ears when an animal appears, is going to disappear, and you are lining up for the shot?). Or lose 5" of bbl length to mount a suppressor and have to bump recoil back up when going to a larger case to offset velocity loss.

Couple weeks ago I was at the local indoor range. Nice fellow next to me with his new Christensen Arms 300 Win Mag. The concussive blast from the muzzle brake was way past rude and pissing everyone off. The guy could have worn a shoulder recall pad or even draped a thin sand bag over his shoulder between the stock. They are a solution that's still looking for a problem. The fellow had no concept of ridiculuos noise and concussive blast he was unleashing on others to his left and right.

I will confess, I had a muzzle brake put on my first 300 Win Mag. After one shot in the field I removed, it taped up the threads for the rest of the hunt and sold the gun. Got another 300 Win Mag with the proceeds and left the barrel alone this time.

 

[Mike Islander]

I "enjoy" a shoulder thumping magnum and it has never kept me from a successful hunt, but I would never dream of shooting from the bench without a PAST recoil pad at the bench. For each time a brake or a suppressor, or "just shoot a smaller cartridge" is offered, a recoil shield like the PAST pad needs to be mentioned in the same sentence.

Not saying the brake or suppressor is not an option. Thinking practically it doesn't make sense to me to brake it and need to wear ear plugs in the field (how do those get in your ears when an animal appears, is going to disappear, and you are lining up for the shot?). Or lose 5" of bbl length to mount a suppressor and have to bump recoil back up when going to a larger case to offset velocity loss.

Couple weeks ago I was at the local indoor range. Nice fellow next to me with his new Christensen Arms 300 Win Mag. The concussive blast from the muzzle brake was way past rude and pissing everyone off. The guy could have worn a shoulder recall pad or even draped a thin sand bag over his shoulder between the stock. They are a solution that's still looking for a problem. The fellow had no concept of ridiculuos noise and concussive blast he was unleashing on others to his left and right.

I will confess, I had a muzzle brake put on my first 300 Win Mag. After one shot in the field I removed, it taped up the threads for the rest of the hunt and sold the gun. Got another 300 Win Mag with the proceeds and left the barrel alone this time.

In an emergency a soft rifle case draped over the shoulder works.

 

[Wyobohunter]

Jesus. I was about to say no one is trying to belittle the OP… then there was a sanitary napkin thrown in the mix…

When I reference “manning up” I’m not trying to insult the OP. Another way to say it is… Shooting magnum cartridges out of lightweight rifles requires the ability to absorb pain. If you insist on a super light rifle with a powerful cartridge there is no way around it. I also realize that his initial question was, should he add some weight and how to go about it. I bypassed that question and went right for keeping the weight down. That was a disservice and I apologize for it.

 

[Formidilosus]

You're teeing it up to share what terminal performance you have experienced or what you have seen with an AB at that energy level. Go ahead and hit it. Did it work well for you or those you have observed? I am going to speculate "yes".

Of course. You could shoot a hundred elk with a 6.5 and 140gr AB, and a hundred elk with a 30/06/300Wsm/etc and a 180gr AB in the exact same spots, at way past “385 yards”, and no one could point at the wound channels in the elk, or watch videos of them being shot and tell you which were which.


How many caveats does someone need to make about shooting a thing, before it dawns that maybe the answer is just to get a rifle that works without issue, in a cartridge that can be shoot endlessly without problems and without handicaps like a shoulder pads and brakes, learn to shoot the thing like a surgeon, then just put the bullets in the front half.

You guys seriously pole vault over mouse turds.

 

[Ucsdryder]

Of course. You could shoot a hundred elk with a 6.5 and 140gr AB, and a hundred elk with a 30/06/300Wsm/etc and a 180gr AB in the exact same spots, at way past “385 yards”, and no one could point at the wound channels in the elk, or watch videos of them being shot and tell you which were which.


How many caveats does someone need to make about shooting a thing, before it dawns that maybe the answer is just to get a rifle that works without issue, in a cartridge that can be shoot endlessly without problems and without handicaps like a shoulder pads and brakes, learn to shoot the thing like a surgeon, then just put the bullets in the front half.

You guys seriously pole vault over mouse turds

Key part of the argument…same place. On a perfect shot you can use almost anything, heck how about a 22LR to the brain. Probably get at least 385. Not all of us are as perfect in everything we do…

You can use a Toyota Tacoma to haul a 5th wheel in perfect circumstances. Doesn’t mean it works as well as a 1 ton diesel.

 

[MadDog4298]

What I have learned from past experience is to never shoot a thumper like you have off the bench without a sissy pad. I use the PAST super magnum pad that you put between the gun and your shoulder. Use this for load development and sight in and then when your in the field shooting at game you won’t notice as much.

 

[QuackAttack]

Recoil causes subconscious flinch.

Heavy recoiling rifles should have a muzzle brake or can.

Send it to Chad Dixon at Longrifles Inc and have a brake put on.

 

[35WhelenAI]

I seriously call into question the reference to a shoulder recoil pad as a handicap at the bench.

Heavier recoiling rifles by no means should have a brake or a can. If they can't be shot consistently by some that's one thing, and nothing wrong there at all. But a blanket statement covering everybody?

 

[Lawnboi]

I seriously call into question the reference to a shoulder recoil pad as a handicap at the bench.

Heavier recoiling rifles by no means should have a brake or a can. If they can't be shot consistently by some that's one thing, and nothing wrong there at all. But a blanket statement covering everybody?

From what I see at the range. I’d say the vast majority.

On top of that, shooting in the field, you have no idea where your bullet went without a spotter with a magnum without something to tame it.

 

[762 ULTRAMAGA]

Jesus. I was about to say no one is trying to belittle the OP… then there was a sanitary napkin thrown in the mix…

When I reference “manning up” I’m not trying to insult the OP. Another way to say it is… Shooting magnum cartridges out of lightweight rifles requires the ability to absorb pain. If you insist on a super light rifle with a powerful cartridge there is no way around it. I also realize that his initial question was, should he add some weight and how to go about it. I bypassed that question and went right for keeping the weight down. That was a disservice and I apologize for it.

Boy people need to learn how to take a damn joke..
I guess it's no surprise in a society that cancels anyone that may have offended a snowflake..

In all seriousness there's absolutely nothing wrong with someone not being able to handle recoil well and dropping down in size.

To the OP:
Get a better stock with a limbsaver recoil pad, add a mercury recoil reducer, or shoot a 270

 

[madcalfe]

this thread is so dumb cant believe you guys are arguing about this (the tampax pic was funny though).
get your barrel threaded and throw a brake on it and be done with it., simple fix.

 

[Wyobohunter]

So dumb… and you had to contribute

“I guess it's no surprise in a society that cancels anyone that may have offended a snowflake.”

Not pointing this at you 762. Just an observation.
It’s kind of funny, I’ve met a lot of people that throw that around like it’s something profound. Those same people tend to melt down when someone disagrees with them… For example, many of the ones I know (work) will rant about gays and transgender people in the military. When I ask them what branch they served in, or what their MOS was they get very flustered or downright angry. The world is full of irony.

 

[Novice]

What brake is suggested for a 7RM Tikka that is tolerable to the shooter and nearby hunters/range goers? Very effective while being not as loud and concussive. If that exists.

Stinks that the OP would have to spend another $300+.

 

[Lawnboi]

What brake is suggested for a 7RM Tikka that is tolerable to the shooter and nearby hunters/range goers? Very effective while being not as loud and concussive. If that exists.

Stinks that the OP would have to spend another $300+.

Don’t mean to be negative, but it does not exist. They are all significantly louder and have more concussion.

My solution is double ear pro at the range, and absolutely not shooting in the field without plugs in. Out of a magnum case even with just plugs in your likely near 140db.

This is the reason I shoot suppressed in the field when I can. That said brakes have their place.

 

[Wyobohunter]

What brake is suggested for a 7RM Tikka that is tolerable to the shooter and nearby hunters/range goers? Very effective while being not as loud and concussive. If that exists.

Stinks that the OP would have to spend another $300+.

That’s a great question. If there was a minuscule brake (very lightweight) that just took the edge off a little and wasn’t insane loud I’d consider it for my lightweight rifle. I could a store it in my purse when I’m not using it

I kid… I really would be interested.

 

[Novice]

Where you keep yours is your business…I’ll keep mine in my thong strap! Hahaha!

 

[Lawnboi]

Super ultra light arm pad for backcountry shooters who can’t shoot good. They won’t see their miss anyways.

 

[35WhelenAI]

From what I see at the range. I’d say the vast majority.

On top of that, shooting in the field, you have no idea where your bullet went without a spotter with a magnum without something to tame it.

Yeah, the vast majority of people at the range don't shoot well regardless of how their gun is outfitted. The concussion and blast isn't something to covered up with earplugs. Some would be better served spending time practicing looking through the shot and stay down on the gun.

I admire you Lawnboi for protecting your hearing in the field with plugs. I don't wear plugs because I hunt areas where I can hear the animals approaching and don't rely on a spotting scope to find them at long distance. And a non-braked rifle is not a detriment to long-term hearing in the field in my opinion.

 

[roosiebull]

That’s the one thing I don’t love about tikka, whatever it is in their stock design (and how they fit me) is the worst rifles I have shot in terms of recoil management… it’s not just the weight because I have had plenty of rifles in the same weight range that have less perceived recoil in the same cartridges.

“Manning up” fits well into that stereotype of magnum shooters thinking the head stamp kills, and shooting the rifle isn’t necessary if you have a magnum, haha

Especially today with all of the great choices in projectiles, no reason to have a rifle that will form bad habits shooting it, or you aren’t willing to shoot much because of recoil… either make the rifle comfortable to shoot or move on, hunt with a rifle that you want to practice with

 

[PantherCity]

And a non-braked rifle is not a detriment to long-term hearing in the field in my opinion.

Your opinion is is simply incorrect. If you are willing to accept that long term hearing loss, that is your choice.


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