This thread is awesome because it just makes me feel a bit vindicated about a little bit of a bad experience I had at Cabelas today. I asked if they had any 7mm-08 rifles in stock, the guy behind the desk asked me what I would be doing with the rifle, I said deer hunting, he then told me the following and I quote " 7mm08 is not a sufficient cartridge to hunt mule deer with". I was so confused and surprised with his comment that all I could get myself to say was " Have you ever hunted deer before?". He then proceeded to tell me I needed a .270 win or bigger...... Granted a .270 is a fantastic deer rifle, no question, but I couldn't believe my ears when this guy told me to go do more research because I clearly didn't understand ballistics......The icing on the cake was he then told me how I needed a 6.5 creedmoor because it was a fantastic deer cartridge for mule deer out to 400 yards...............