The Shoot2hunt Podcast

[Reburn]

It would be interesting to listen to a good civil conversation between people on both sides of the caliber debate. I feel like JVB along with alot of his listeners heard killing big game with a .223 and then missed a lot of the main points that Form was trying to make in the podcast he did

JVB isn’t wanting an honest conversation. He is wanting clicks to cash in on controversy.

He will NEVER openly debate Form. It would be bad for him if he got painted into a corner.

Plus, I don’t see a point for Form to even try to speak to him. JVB will just make it an argument.

The best thing we can do is just ignore JVB. He brings nothing to the table, and I will not click anything of his and allow him to monetize my click.

 

[Castle Rock]

But if the letter from NZ was from Nathan Foster ...

You missed the point, there was no letter, he was making it up

 

[Ryan Avery]

As the so-called gatekeepers of the hunting industry continue to lose ground, they will up their attacks on information contrary to theirs. They can keep being windbags for their overlords, and we will keep posing up real-life results from piss ant calibers and scopes that hold zero.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

and we will just keep posing up real life results from piss ant calibers and scopes that hold zero.

This is the crux of it right here. Notice who is actually posting up real world results and who is just "talking" and "theorizing" about it on the internet.

 

[swavescatter]

As the so-called gatekeepers of the hunting industry continue to lose ground, they will up their attacks on information contrary to theirs. They can keep being windbags for their overlords, and we will keep posing up real-life results from piss ant calibers and scopes that hold zero.

When will you shoot a bull elk with a 223? You seem to have hit a wall at 6mm…

 

[Ryan Avery]

When will you shoot a bull elk with a 223? You seem to have hit a wall at 6mm…

When you shoot one with a 6mm.

 

[swavescatter]

When you shoot one with a 6mm.

Only done 30 cal and 50 cal so far because I can’t draw a tag but my son will hopefully take a cow with a 223, plus another big game animal soon. I’ll post those up in the 223 thread.

My first 6mm is getting chopped and threaded now so hopefully I draw next year.

But seriously - are you willing to try 22cal? I would but my tag options suck compared to yours so we’ll have to wait.

 

[Sadler]

Listened to 35 minutes and 49 seconds of this second podcast while running today and it seemed as though he contradicted himself with small calibers don’t work but a guide he knows loves the 243 and another guy went to Africa and killed everything with it but they don’t have energy yada yada yada and he won’t entertain the idea of talking to Form because he’s recommending smaller cartridges and that’s irresponsible.

I don’t know if he mentioned this on these particular podcasts but I have heard him say before, at least I think it was him, that small calibers like the 6 and 6.5 creedmoor are good for women and kids. Apparently they’re not good for men though. My question for him in regards to that statement is why would you recommend these less than ideal cartridges for people with very little to no experience? Wouldn’t you want them to shoot bigger cartridges with more nock down power in case of a bad shot for that “insurance” on those big rutted up bulls?

 

[Ryan Avery]

Only done 30 cal and 50 cal so far because I can’t draw a tag but my son will hopefully take a cow with a 223, plus another big game animal soon. I’ll post those up in the 223 thread.

My first 6mm is getting chopped and threaded now so hopefully I draw next year.

But seriously - are you willing to try 22cal? I would but my tag options suck compared to yours so we’ll have to wait.

Yes, I am building a 22-creed right now. It seems to have legs... as they say.

I might shoot a cow with a .223. But a .223 limits my range when I am hunting for a bull. I practice and spend too many days in the field looking for a big bull to be limited to 400 yards. I passed up several bulls around 300" and smaller this year.. they don't excite me. I would hate to have a 340+ bull standing at 704 on a windy day and have a .223 with me. I am looking for the most shootable rifle that can kill elk at 1000 yards IF needed, and that, IMO is the 6UM with a 115 Dtac NR.