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41. What's Form have to say about it? - Shoot2Hunt

In Episode 41 listen in as Ryan, Jake and Form talk about getting group sizes, load development, suppressor life, and of course Tikkas.

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My Dad bought me my first Sako in 1997, a model 75 chambered in 6.5x55. I've dabbled in customs over the years and tried just about all of them that I could... Always come back to my Sakos and Tikkas, they're the only rifles I hunt with anymore.

Great podcast, loving hearing @Formidilosus take on some of these topics! Hearing you guys actually talk candidly, with both of your level of experience, is an excellent format. Makes it feel much more "real" to me personally than reading it online.

 

[Harvey_NW]

I tried searching for this but didn't really find anything specific, so apologies if I missed it-

Question about the quote Aaron Davidson made in the podcast about not knowing how to shoot if you need a cheek riser and it catering to bad shooting form - I always thought a solid cheek rest with your eye being centered in the scope was pretty important, what bad form is it promoting?

 

[amassi]

I tried searching for this but didn't really find anything specific, so apologies if I missed it-

Question about the quote Aaron Davidson made in the podcast about not knowing how to shoot if you need a cheek riser and it catering to bad shooting form - I always thought a solid cheek rest with your eye being centered in the scope was pretty important, what bad form is it promoting?

Drops the recoil pad too low and since most stock have too low recoil pads to begin with you are exacerbating the issue. The stock doesn’t fit and the adjustable cheek piece is a band aid


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[ElPollo]

41. What's Form have to say about it? - Shoot2Hunt

In Episode 41 listen in as Ryan, Jake and Form talk about getting group sizes, load development, suppressor life, and of course Tikkas.

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Another great podcast. I know you guys are trying to up your views on YouTube and other platforms. One way to do that is to get the episodes up on all platforms at the same time. Personally, I’m listening on the UM website because it comes out there first. If I listen to them a second time, I’ll use YouTube if I’m home or Apple Podcasts if I’m in the field. I noticed that the last two podcasts just went live on YouTube today. As much as I have a love hate relationship with YT, if you put it out first there people will listen to it there.

 

[Elkangle]

Awesome podcast pretty much binged all the episodes over hunting the last 25 days

 

[fwafwow]

Great podcast. It made me think of a rookie question I’ve been wanting to ask. When Form or someone else says “it’s a 1 MOA gun” (or whatever MOA), why do they say that if they are Mils guys?

 

[PNWGATOR]

Great podcast. It made me think of a rookie question I’ve been wanting to ask. When Form or someone else says “it’s a 1 MOA gun” (or whatever MOA), why do they say that if they are Mils guys?

Simply a frame of reference.

 

[Reburn]

Form and ryan brought up breaking and remaking a position as a shooting drill.

Can yall elaborate on that?

@Formidilosus

 

[Conrad]

Build and break drills. You position your rifle and then your body in a fluid motion such that when you look through your scope you should be on target or very very close. If you are, then you could dry fire or live fire. If you're not, get up, restart and try again until you learn how to adjust your approach, body and ultimately natural point of aim on target. If you're basically already on target as soon as you settle in you can shoot that much faster.

 

[Reburn]

Build and break drills. You position your rifle and then your body in a fluid motion such that when you look through your scope you should be on target or very very close. If you are, then you could dry fire or live fire. If you're not, get up, restart and try again until you learn how to adjust your approach, body and ultimately natural point of aim on target. If you're basically already on target as soon as you settle in you can shoot that much faster.

Thank you sir.

 

[amassi]

Form and ryan brought up breaking and remaking a position as a shooting drill.

Can yall elaborate on that?

@Formidilosus

I took it to mean shooting a group but between each shot, you stand pick up all your junk, reset and then set up and shoot again. If your prone I suppose you could roll off the gun, manipulate the pack roll back on and shoot again.
I think it’s a way to further proof out your actual accuracy and precision of yourself and that rifle. Like they said, not a lot of “moa all day if I do my part” guys survive said test.


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[Formidilosus]

Form and ryan brought up breaking and remaking a position as a shooting drill.

Can yall elaborate on that?

@Formidilosus

@amassi has the gist of it.

 

[Castle Rock]

Build and break drills. You position your rifle and then your body in a fluid motion such that when you look through your scope you should be on target or very very close. If you are, then you could dry fire or live fire. If you're not, get up, restart and try again until you learn how to adjust your approach, body and ultimately natural point of aim on target. If you're basically already on target as soon as you settle in you can shoot that much faster.

Yep, standard practice across most shooting disciplines even pistols

 

[Reburn]

I took it to mean shooting a group but between each shot, you stand pick up all your junk, reset and then set up and shoot again. If your prone I suppose you could roll off the gun, manipulate the pack roll back on and shoot again.
I think it’s a way to further proof out your actual accuracy and precision of yourself and that rifle. Like they said, not a lot of “moa all day if I do my part” guys survive said test.


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But if i roll off my belly pad I will get dirty.

Thanks for the explanation fellas I will have to try intergrating this.

 

[wind gypsy]

41. What's Form have to say about it? - Shoot2Hunt

In Episode 41 listen in as Ryan, Jake and Form talk about getting group sizes, load development, suppressor life, and of course Tikkas.

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I’m only 15 minutes in so I don’t know if you clarify or correct the fire forming answer early on but you definitely don’t want to use PRC brass.

 

[Tullis94]

I’m only 15 minutes so I don’t know if you clarify or correct the fire forming answer early on but you definitely don’t want to use PRC brass.

They never mention it again. I kinda thought the same thing, but I don't have a reason why other than it seems like a lot of brass movement. What are your thoughts?

 

[wind gypsy]

They never mention it again. I kinda thought the same thing, but I don't have a reason why other than it seems like a lot of brass movement. What are your thoughts?

I’ve never done such a thing or even read about it but it seems like a bad idea.

SAUM is a rebated rim case and the PRC isn’t and they have basically the same case head size which means the web of the cases are different sizes and you’re either going to do shit to the web of a PRC case that isn’t supposed to stretch like the neck and shoulders do or you’re going to have a sloppy ass fit in the chamber. Probably both?

Not aware of any wildcats that are fire formed into a different case web dimension and that makes a lot of sense.

 

[khuber84]

So......listened to podcast. I highly recommend NOT firing a prc case in any Saum based chamber. Yes headspace is close, case length dimensions are similar. But a 533 chamber base VS a 552(my Saum reamer) is a huge difference. I've accidentally fired an adg 65prc in a 65sherman max once(very similar chamber dimension of what a 65UM would be). The results were not pretty. The upper half the case area forms 95% to chamber. However the lower half and web area above exteactor cut, doesn't form much at all. You end up with a case that's 535 at base, and 543 at the shoulder. I don't know how many firings it'd take to form the base but I'd bet it'd fail before getting fully formed.

 

[wind gypsy]

You end up with a case that's 535 at base, and 543 at the shoulder.

that sounds like a real doozy to extract.

 

[khuber84]

that sounds like a real doozy to extract.

It extracted fine, the Sherman max is 552 base, and 543 at shoulder or there abouts! It looked pretty f'd up. I think my buddy has it on his relaoding wall of shame. I'll try get a Pic of it next time I'm by his place!