The response Jake and Ryan asked for concerning "why not use vulgarity?"

I view profanity as a verbal exclamation point, to enhance a statement. I begin to become fatigued when it becomes an adjective or adverb in every sentence. It loses its effect when used routinely in every sentence, becomes verbal laziness. You lose your audience. If your message is effective or important to your audience it is unnecessary.
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Stated better than I could.
A well placed swear word can really drive home a point you are trying to make, and believe me I can drop one in with the best of them, but it really gets old when you are in a conversation with a group of guys and every other word out of their mouth is the F-bomb.
"Man did you see the F...ing rack on that f...ing buck, that f...er must have went 180. I'd shoot that motherf...er - I wouldn't think about it for a f...ing second. Hey toss me another f...ing beer"
What bothers me more is when I see parents (both mother and father) curse like its normal language around the house (or out in public) in front of their kids.
Everyone is free to speak how ever they want, but the whole trend towards normalizing the kind of speech I gave an example of above, is a bit concerning. The argument "that's just the way people talk now days - get used to it" is lame and a pretty sad commentary on where our society is headed.
 
I stopped listening due to the profanity. I used to use a fair amount of profanity, but realized I’m not very good at it and stopped.

Genuinely curious, is there anyone who has stopped listening to a podcast because it lacked profanity? As in, “I’ve been listening for a full five minutes and nobody’s dropped the f bomb, time to turn this thing off”
 
I try to keep it lower use because it losses its potency the more you swear. It’s like when the quiet guy at work raises his voice. Everyone stops to see what’s going on while if the loud guys being loud no one pays attention. If you live next to a train track you get used to the trains if you don’t you notice when ones coming.
 
The only reason one needs to include profanity is because they have a challenged vocabulary. THAT is the message you are sending to those listening voluntarily, or not. To be sure, it is also a fact. In addition, to those that do listen, the speaker is ingraining that type of speech into their minds and without a doubt, creating that same bad habit within them. If nothing else, it's just disrespectful to the listeners to be subjected to it....voluntarily, or not.

My brother is a terrible swearer.....once when driving with him from Pa to Kentucky, about halfway there I told him one more word of it and he is walking the rest of the way..and I was serious. I said, think what you want to say first, then how to say it without the profanity...then speak. When we left Kentucky, I reminded him. I only had to warn him twice on the way back.

I was once a swearer, and I was getting tired of it myself but couldn't kick that bad habit. I had an idea.....I joined a church and volunteered a lot. There, I had to be VERY mindful of my speech. Guess what, it worked and worked very well. I might say a curse word 5x a year now...and I'm pretty peeved when I do.

I guarantee you most podcast listeners put up with it, but would rather not hear it. Those 2 guys need to get their act together....period. No need for it...ever!

I'm sure their GF or wives are embarrassed every time they open their mouth..even moreso if they have kids! It's disrespectful and no amount of freedom of speech will change that.
 
I found the Grok summary pretty unpersuasive. So many conditional weasel words. And that's the best argument from the whole internet? I certainly have not found the use of P&V to actually correlate with more honesty- though maybe not with less either.
However, I did already include a section on "good reasons to use profanity and vulgarity" in which I cover those positive aspects of using P&V plus some others. It's not like we do it for no reason.
 
I use a few swear words once in a while. Like when I smash a finger with a hammer or wreck my knuckles when fixing something on a vehicle. 🤣 I don’t ever use the fbomb. I won’t listen to podcasts, interviews, movies, songs, etc that use a lot of profanity or are vulgar in other ways. I try my best to eat healthy foods for my body so I try my best to have healthy thoughts and a clean mind as well. I’ve dealt with a lot of customers over the years that talk this way and I usually end up just tuning them out. I’ve had a lot show up drunk as well while dropping off their wildgame.
 
You guys are way softer than I thought.

I grew up in an alcoholic household where they ONLY used 4 letter words, USMC, logging, open pit mining, welding and finally settled into power generation. I cuss constantly in the right company including the VPs and CEO who are worse than me. We're all capable of flipping the switch into pro mode when necessary.

You're getting disrespected by words that you choose to listen to? Softer than melted ice cream.
 
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Stated better than I could.
A well placed swear word can really drive home a point you are trying to make, and believe me I can drop one in with the best of them, but it really gets old when you are in a conversation with a group of guys and every other word out of their mouth is the F-bomb.
"Man did you see the F...ing rack on that f...ing b***

My mind was going a different direction reading that...
 
I think the "if it offends you" theme is missing the point. Obviously the pro-P&V (profanity and vulgarity) folks are just as exercised as the don't-P&V folks. It's not about shaming someone's emotional reaction- it's about the why. Emotions and reactions can be just or unjust sentiments. The question is the justification. Those that are "offended" by P&V believe that there is a diffuse cost to P&V- that is it a human social contaminant that slowly and diffusely harms everyone in a number of ways.

Most adult men believe we are resilient enough and adaptable enough to overcome that effect in our environment. But we know some portion of the human distribution is not- and probably the majority. This is why people that use P&V often take offence to it's use around kids and women. They know there is something wrong with that- even if they can't put their finger on why.

To be clear, I am not "offended" at P&V because I am emotionally brittle. I take offence in some circumstances because I believe it causes highly diffuse, but real harm. The rational uses of P&V are real, but in the long run, distributed across human societies, the toxicity undermines the utility.
 
I get more offended by guys using the softer version of a cuss word.

Just say it and stop acting as if you’re better by saying “you dumb frick” or “you’re going to H E double-hockey-sticks”

It’s not what comes out of your mouth, it’s what you’re thinking. It’s the same without the virtue signaling.
 
You need to go outside and touch some damn grass
thanks Jonny cake. I also did that today. And repaired something mechanical. And spent time with my family. Put away the dive gear from scalloping in FL last week. But to quote Jake and Ryan, I didn't "just go f____ing hunting." Stupid August.
 
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