The response Jake and Ryan asked for concerning "why not use vulgarity?"

Some of the people here would HATE random aussie banter.
It's perfectly normal to call a complete stranger "mate" and your best mate "c*nt" 🤣🤣

Words only have the power you allow them.

As for the pearl clutching about kids hearing adult language, maybe try conversing with your kids and telling them the difference between kid language and adult language and when its appropriate to use both as they grow up.
 
Some of the people here would HATE random aussie banter.
It's perfectly normal to call a complete stranger "mate" and your best mate "c*nt" 🤣🤣

Words only have the power you allow them.

As for the pearl clutching about kids hearing adult language, maybe try conversing with your kids and telling them the difference between kid language and adult language and when its appropriate to use both as they grow up.
I wouldn't copy much of anything Australia is doing nowadays.
 
The only surprising thing about this is that anyone is surprised different people have different opinions about vulgarity...

Some people consider "cuss words" just that. Some people let them fly every once in a while. Some can't speak a sentence without one. There's an 82 page, 1634 post count thread on Christianity that's still active on this forum. It shouldn't be surprising that there are people in all three camps here.
 
The only surprising thing about this is that anyone is surprised different people have different opinions about vulgarity...

Some people consider "cuss words" just that. Some people let them fly every once in a while. Some can't speak a sentence without one. There's an 82 page, 1634 post count thread on Christianity that's still active on this forum. It shouldn't be surprising that there are people in all three camps here.
Right. But is that really relevant?
 
The only surprising thing about this is that anyone is surprised different people have different opinions about vulgarity...

Some people consider "cuss words" just that. Some people let them fly every once in a while. Some can't speak a sentence without one. There's an 82 page, 1634 post count thread on Christianity that's still active on this forum. It shouldn't be surprising that there are people in all three camps here.
I agree. Why anyone with a product to sell would immediately alienate 50% of their potential market is beyond me. Sounds like someone failed marketing 101.
 
I get a kick out of people thinking their kids have such innocent ears.

Probably the dirtiest stuff I regular herd was spoken by my friends growing up in at a Catholic middle school. If we still had nuns, they would not have approved.😆

Between that and old truckers, there was nothing that I hadn't heard by the time I was 12...

Meanwhile, old men on Rokslide claim they never used any questionable language and also apparently never heard it spoken.
 
I agree. Why anyone with a product to sell would immediately alienate 50% of their potential market is beyond me. Sounds like someone failed marketing 101.

Probably because it doesn't alienate 50% of their market when probably 5% even listens to their podcast.

Their podcast is something they do for fun as far as I can tell. I doubt the ads for ADG and Stockys are super lucrative.

It's easy. Don't listen if you're offended. They also very clearly don't care if you're offended. Buy or do not buy. No one cares.
 
I get a kick out of people thinking their kids have such innocent ears.

Probably the dirtiest stuff I regular herd was spoken by my friends growing up in at a Catholic middle school. If we still had nuns, they would not have approved.😆

Between that and old truckers, there was nothing that I hadn't heard by the time I was 12...

Meanwhile, old men on Rokslide claim they never used any questionable language and also apparently never heard it spoken.
4th grade basketball court was some major shit talking.
 
I agree. Why anyone with a product to sell would immediately alienate 50% of their potential market is beyond me. Sounds like someone failed marketing 101.
so being fake to up the sales is a better approach? i think if you look around at the products that surround you, and what they are doing on the down low, cussing would be the easiest for a good nights sleep.
 
My niece is a principal in a suburban middle school. This was today’s discipline event
Student stood on a chair and bent over so that his rear end was towards another student. Then he farted in someone's face. She called the father who had no response.
 
Son of a gun*, I read through the most of the thread and all of the OP's 13 page manifesto. And dang* me, if there aren't some good points being made. But what the heck*, I like to swear and in certain contexts I do it quite a bit. It can be freakin* beautiful self-expression

For me, there is a large distinction between P&V (profanity and vulgarity, per the OP) and blasphemy.

The former is a celebration of the earthy, the bodily, the primal - that lends itself to a language of the emphatic, the funny, and in many instances the intimate, or clubby. Which is a big part of life.

Blasphemy, for me at least, is very much the erosion of the sacred and the reverent that the OP writes about. I strive (and occasionally struggle) to avoid it as I'm uncomforatable with anything that mocks, or diminishes, the Creator.

I write a lot of emails. Just today, in various emails to clients I used the following words: desuetude, capricious, gestalt, folderol and many other fancy-fine utterances. Why? Because I like words, and the extraordinary gamut of subtlety they can convey. But honestly, those words? There is really only one way to mentally recite them - a little bit pretentious and a lot stilted Whereas the word '****' is all about the inflection, the tone, and the emotional underpinning. It can be a declamatory bomb or a slow rumination; a purr of possibility or an expectoration of surprise. It provides an almost limitless shorthand of decription.

A last question for the OP; what about the * words in my first paragraph? They're generally considered inocuous and acceptble in almost any conversation but, aren't they just cursing lite? They are all derived from vulgar/profane words and, as a direct stand in for these words there is no reason for them not to be equally offensive, or unnecessary. I think in the end it's the semantics of phonemes and values we assign. Which is mostly arbitrary.

Finally, I just want to thank whoever resurrected this thread since, as a relatively recent FNG, I might have otherwise missed this edifying content that perfectly encaspulates the reasons I joined Rokslide.
 
50%.. HAHA!
Sadly not everyone is used to businesses being operated by people who actively filter their customers by being authentic and not giving a f*ck about pandering to the masses for money.

They're used to college marketing graduates who have been taught to be spineless weasels in an effort to cater to everyone and have zero integrity
 
While I do care, so I choose not to listen to it, methinks the language used on their podcast is the least of UM’s problems…
 
Interesting conversation.

Generally a few times a month I am in a prospective customers house meeting them to discuss a remodeling project. Maybe it makes me a spineless weasel, but I am very careful how I present at these meetings. The thought is that I am a guest at their home, their home is a very personal place to them, and the conversations are not about me, but about them. That means I don't vomit my personal views all over them. If they ask questions, sure, we chat. It's all about respecting the customer. This has paid quite the dividends for us.

Everyone should have to at some point in their life sell their product/services because it is directly tied to them paying their bills. It's a real arrogance killer. 10 years of fairly strong consumer spending has a lot of people taking demand for granted.

The Shoot2Hunt guys are adults, and I'd never want them to change how they operate unless they come around to the idea themselves, but I happily wear my Exo t shirt in public, and I don't feel the same way about Shoot2Hunt/UM. Steve does slip up occasionally, and the F word pops out, but I can tell they make an effort to keep it respectful to a wide range of customers. He's probably less so in his private life, and I don't need to have an effect on that, but the feeling I get from Exo as a company is really what good sales strategy is all about.

For what it's worth, I own a US suppressor, and there are some suppressors and Rokstoks in my friend/family group because of my engagement on Rokslide. I will continue to buy from them as needed, as they make good stuff, but I'd be far more engaged with their company if the tone of the podcast was more interesting to me.

Others will see it differently, and that's fine. Just one internet idiots opinion.
 
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