The downside of hunting alone

dotman

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That is a sad story, it is also sad if it is true that someone found the site and took his stuff without reporting it to someone. I have never thought about the Spot but now i'm rethinking that. The good thing is that even though I hunt alone my parents know where my general area will be but that doesn't help pin point my location.

On another side note even if you have no cell service if you continue to try 911 it will still usually hit a cell tower, you just will not have enough signal to make a call but the ping will help locte you. I'll have to ask the techs at work more but I do know that a cell phone without signal can help locate you still.

Here is a good article on it http://www.backpacker.com/prof-hike-cell-phones/skills/15238
 
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I don't really know much about altitude sickness, maybe i should read up on it.....

i cant show this to my wife or i wont be allowed to go, just need to buy a SPOT and hope for the best
 

Ross

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Very sad story in deed. Likewise on not showing my wife, as she worries enough already on my solo ventures afield. Makes me think a spot may be a good idea.
 

Lukem

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Sad story. I elk hunted only a few miles from there about 2 weeks before he disappeared.
 
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Too bad. Hunting alone is definitely dangerous. I know I'm more comfortable doing it now thanks to the SPOT in my pack.

The other downside is, one of my hunting buddies owns horses and I don't...;)
 

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That's is sad indeed. His family will finally get closure.

I followed a thread on 14ers.com where people where searching for him in the Holy Cross area. There were witnesses that reported haven spoken with him and suspected he may not have been feeling well(altitude sickness). Nobody was sure if he had assured them that he was heading back down after a short break or not. Heres the thread if anyone is interested http://14ers.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=27700

There could be other reason for the few pieces gear that are missing. When looking at the picture of his camp the first thing I notice is his boots. That's a big red flag. There are a lot of people that have never returned from trips into the forest/wilderness. If you stumble onto an abandoned camp like the one in the pic it needs to be reported.

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Yukondog

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So very sad. Even though I want to hunt as bad as the next guy I have decided that it is not worth the risk to go solo. Last years elk hunt got cut from 7 days down to 2 because my partner had to be home. Packing up and leaving when the elk are screaming is hard to do. When I think of my wife and two young boys it is always the right decision for me to be with a partner in the woods. Hiking a designated trail is a whole different animal than chasing elk all over a wilderness area.

My heart is sad for this mans family and how he must have felt in those last hours. Though I'm glad to read he was in the Lords hands!
 

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The $99 annual fee really chaps my a$$. Does anyone use acr or other companies, do you know if there are companies without an annual fee?
 

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I occasionally hunt alone and my wife got me a SPOT when they first came out...she makes sure it's in my gear. It makes her feel better and I feel better now that I've got to know it's capabilities- won't rely on it alone, still carry other safety gear but it's a nice option to have.

I don't hunt solo as much as I used to, but enjoy it occasionally. It is risky beyond a doubt.
 
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SPOT = happy wife = more days hunting = $99 annual money well spent.

Belly deep- anytime you're ready to saddle up, I'm your huckleberry.
 
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The ACR microfix is a pretty common option up this way and it is a PLB so no annual fee but you also can't send a "doing great" message to your wife with a PLB. Personally I just haul a sat phone and keep the various emergency numbers handy. After getting sick on a solo trip I have been much less enthusiastic about them. I will split up on a hunt and look over a different drainage but I am pretty much over the desire to wonder the back country alone for a week or more. IF I drew the right tag and couldn't find a partner then I would no doubt get after it alone again but I prefer not to.
 

trevore

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That's sad for sure, hopefully his family can move on from it.

I'm not familiar with that area, does anyone know if he was off of his intended route? Or did SAR just miss him?
 

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Sad indeed. I'm judging a book by its cover but looking at his photo (judging him to be out of shape) and then hearing of his plans to solo summit a 14'er coming from Chicago makes me scratch my head.

Regardless, I do use a SPOT and it did save my bacon once. That said, I'm a little upset with SPOT at the moment. My device stopped working in Nov and after a couple of tries to replace batteries and then re-use, I called the customer service and the guy whom I barely could understand told me that since it was outside my warranty that I should just throw the SPOT 2 away and buy a new one, citing that it's too costly to repair them. Certainly not what I was hoping to hear.
 

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In following the 14ers thread there had been several search parties(individual and SAR groups) looking for him. I think they even did aerial searches. Looking at the pic of his camp it looks like the tree cover is pretty minimal and his camp would have been seen from the air had they flown over it. The other thing is that the camp his stuff was found in looks to have been regularly used by others(not just a random spot in the woods). This all makes me think he was well outside of his intended route. These are all just my random thoughts with no evidence to back them up.

Heres a recent quote from his family on 14ers

"To all 14ers. I just received word this evening that the campsite of my son, James has been found. Search and Rescue is 100% sure it is his campsite from the description of the tent, backpack and clothing that was found. Few remains have been found of him. I don't know too many of the details and there will need to be DNA testing done for a positive ID. It is with a heavy heavy heart that I write this but at least there can be some closure in our lifes. God walk with all of you and keep you save in all your climbing trips.
Cathy Nelson
James Nelson's mother."
 

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Have you guys looked into renting a Sat phone? I believe that is what I am going to do this year, and it looks like it will be about $50 for a week. So that is another option if you don't want to pay the annual fee for the SPOT or DeLorme.
 
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