The Capra World Slam.

Mojave

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Right now here in Europe for reasonable money you could hunt.

4 spanish ibex $4500-12,000 x4
2 spanish chamois. $5000 x2
Alpine chamois $4000
Balkan chamois $5000
carpathian chamois. $5000

plus mountain goat $15-20,000

NZ chamois $10,000-14,000 for both
NZ tahr

That's 12.

If NZ chamois and Tahr don't count.

You could hunt Tajikistan for whatever the cheapest ibex is $12000
and the two ibex in Mongolia $15,000 each
 
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Right now here in Europe for reasonable money you could hunt.

4 spanish ibex $4500-12,000 x4
2 spanish chamois. $5000 x2
Alpine chamois $4000
Balkan chamois $5000
carpathian chamois. $5000

plus mountain goat $15-20,000

NZ chamois $10,000-14,000 for both
NZ tahr

That's 12.

If NZ chamois and Tahr don't count.

You could hunt Tajikistan for whatever the cheapest ibex is $12000
and the two ibex in Mongolia $15,000 each
Right now Spain and Romania seem like the two standout European destinations for these mountain hunts.

Do you know if there are any mountainous hunts for mouflon or are they generally more of a forest hunt?

NZ is definitely high up on the list for the chamois and Tahr combo. I'm hoping to combo hunt several species on each of these trips to make the most of each experience.

In terms of Asian Ibex I'm seeing a Tajikistan hunt for $10,800 Canadian, the same hunt in Kyrgyzstan for $9,500 Canadian, even less in Kazakhstan. Maybe these aren't reputable outfitters?
 

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Right now Spain and Romania seem like the two standout European destinations for these mountain hunts.

Do you know if there are any mountainous hunts for mouflon or are they generally more of a forest hunt?

NZ is definitely high up on the list for the chamois and Tahr combo. I'm hoping to combo hunt several species on each of these trips to make the most of each experience.

In terms of Asian Ibex I'm seeing a Tajikistan hunt for $10,800 Canadian, the same hunt in Kyrgyzstan for $9,500 Canadian, even less in Kazakhstan. Maybe these aren't reputable outfitters?
There are wild free ranging mouflon all over mainland Europe. Unless there are wolves. Then there are not any anymore.

Mouflon can either be a forest animal or an animal of the mountains. They seem to do well in both places.

There is a mountain (hill to my Wyoming eyes) about 15 miles from my house that has mouflon on it. But it is still forest.

I wouldn't say that Romania is a stand out, anymore than anyplace else is.

Spain 4 ibex 2 chamois
France has 4 chamois (3 exotic ones plus the same Pyranian chamois as Spain)
Romania only has Carpathian chamois
Slovakia has low tatra chamois
Alpine chamois are in Austria, Germany, Switzerland, France, Slovenia and in Italy
Bulgaria and Croatia have Balkan chamois
Bulgaria and Croatia has some exotics none of them free range. Tahr, Alpine ibex, Kri-Kri hybrids and maybe some other stuff.

Might be able to get an alpine ibex for $15,000 if you are very lucky. Most of them are $20-50,000 in Austria or Slovenia. There are some high fence ones in Germany, but I don't remember where. Actually there are two herds of them within 20km of my house but they are not in hunting programs.

A class 3 ibex might be had for $5000. This would be a 2-4 year old. But you would need to been a waiting list for a couple of years.
 
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There are wild free ranging mouflon all over mainland Europe. Unless there are wolves. Then there are not any anymore.

Mouflon can either be a forest animal or an animal of the mountains. They seem to do well in both places.

There is a mountain (hill to my Wyoming eyes) about 15 miles from my house that has mouflon on it. But it is still forest.

I wouldn't say that Romania is a stand out, anymore than anyplace else is.

Spain 4 ibex 2 chamois
France has 4 chamois (3 exotic ones plus the same Pyranian chamois as Spain)
Romania only has Carpathian chamois
Slovakia has low tatra chamois
Alpine chamois are in Austria, Germany, Switzerland, France, Slovenia and in Italy
Bulgaria and Croatia have Balkan chamois
Bulgaria and Croatia has some exotics none of them free range. Tahr, Alpine ibex, Kri-Kri hybrids and maybe some other stuff.

Might be able to get an alpine ibex for $15,000 if you are very lucky. Most of them are $20-50,000 in Austria or Slovenia. There are some high fence ones in Germany, but I don't remember where. Actually there are two herds of them within 20km of my house but they are not in hunting programs.

A class 3 ibex might be had for $5000. This would be a 2-4 year old. But you would need to been a waiting list for a couple of years.
That’s awesome. I just watched a video of in Alpine Mouflon hunt, it looked like a real mountain hunt, similar to what you would expect ibex in.

The appeal of Romania from what I can tell are the Carpathian Mountains and the largest Chamois species.

I guess aside from those they are known for Stag, boar and affordable brown bear hunts.

I’d love to hunt an Alpine Ibex for 15k but everything ive seen online seems much closer to 50k. It’s a shame that Switzerland stopped offering this hunt.
 
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Mojave

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That’s awesome. I just watched a video of in Alpine Mouflon hunt, it looked like a rear mountain hunt, similar to what you would expect ibex in.

The appeal of Romania from what I can tell are the Carpathian Mountains and the largest Chamois species.

I guess aside from those they are known for Stag, boar and affordable brown bear hunts.

I’d love to hunt an Alpine Ibex for 15k but everything ive seen online seems much closer to 50k. It’s a shame that Switzerland stopped offering this hunt.


Incorrect.

Romania brown bears are deceiving. If you shoot a bear over a certain size you pay for the bear plus a fee and don't get to bring it home. They don't even know if they will have a season in 2025.

Croatia and Estonia have cheap bear hunts.

Romania does have the biggest chamois, good stags, good roe deer and good wild boar.
 

Mojave

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I was supposed to go to Romania, but the booking agent decided on a 30% price increase for 2025. So screw her.

You need a good agent.
 

Mojave

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Yes and the price is going up faster than sheep hunts.
Kind of.

It depends though. The vast majority of alpine ibex are in a high fence.

Here in Europe there are about 30 booking agents.

It is my own opinion that WTA charges a heavy American tax, either knowingly or their agent is doing it.

Anyone selling you an Alpine Ibex in USA is going to be adding quite a bit of American tax. WTA's is huge.

This looks like a state forest area: https://worldwidetrophyadventures.com/trips/alpine-ibex/. $26,000 is probably close to what I consider to be the European price of $18-25,000. $6000 for a Class III is complete BS. They are typically 3000 Euros or about $3500.

https://worldwidetrophyadventures.com/trips/first-class-alpine-ibex-hunting-in-austria/. This is a private area. Hence the $35,000 price. This would probably be a $20,000 hunt booked through a German or Austrian agent.

Here is a Swiss agent I have hunted with before. His name is Eric
https://www.capra-adventures.com/wp...fopdf_Download_Alpine-Ibex_Oesterreich_EN.pdf. I think you could do it with Eric for $12000-18,000.

There are Bezoars in top areas of Turkey that will be similar prices. Around $25,000. Everyone is paying the same amount.

Gredos ibex are getting crazy expensive. I would do that if you need to get this done very soon.
 
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I was able to completed my Capra 20 last year with a Balkan chamois in Croatia. Romania was good to me last month where I added a Carpathia chamois. It was a different kinda chami hunt being in the forest finding and evaluating quality. I sure have grown to like hunting chamois as the price is reasonable for most of the varieties.
I hunted ibex in Spain 3 times and only need a Rhonda to have all 4 but I'll be sure to hunt both chamois when I return. Headed to Tigik next month with a buddy and hope to add a Pamir ibex to my list.
The Kri Kri hybred doesnt count for the 12 but it did for the 20.
I'd also look at the tur hunts in Russia. They are great mountain hunts. They count on both the Capra & Ovis lists
 
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So i've been giving this more thought in recent weeks and am starting to put together a hunt plan for the next 5 years.

With Canada Mountain Goat on deck I think I should be able to follow up with the following over the course of the next 5 years.

Trip 1: Spain - Beceite & South Eastern Ibex. I likely won't end up hunting all 4 here and from other discussions on this forum, the above two species are the two to have. I may be able to add in a chamois to this trip as well.

Trip 2: New Zealand - Tahr and Chamois. This sounds like it could be a real challenging mountain hunt that I'd like to pursue while I am still young and able.

Trip 3: Return to Europe: Either Austria or Romania. Alpine Chamois or Carpathian Chamois, maybe throw in a Mouflon.

Trip 4: Turkey - Bezoar Ibex. Would also consider Mongolia for Altai/Gobi Ibex if they present a better value and bigger adventure.

Trip 5: Kyrgyzstan - Mid-Asian Ibex. This would likely be the biggest adventure of them all in the most foreign land.

Are there any other Chamois or additional add on species that could be included in #4 or #5?

Assuming these were all successful, that would put me around 9 species or a 3/4 slam.
My 2 cents as I've been in your shoes.
Spain: definitely hunt the chamois. They are more affordable than the Ibex and a better hunt in my opinion. Or hunt a Gredos or Bicetie ibex & the two chamois.
New Zealand: Absolutely! Just be sure to pic a outfitter that will foot/tent hunt you. Not from a heli. youd only be disappointed. Consider adding an aropawa and or feral goat. I know they arent the sexiest animals but 15 years later you are wishing you did.
Turkey: Bezoar & now the coastal ibex are great trips but have increased in price with reduced tags. The bezoar is a must in most capra collections. I think a guy could find one in mid 40 inch range for $14-16,000. The Anatolian chamois there is pricy compared to others in Europe but a great hunt.
Kyrg: Yes! just do it. Great true mountain hunting.
Tyjik: Could do 2 ibex, Pamir & Bukharan. The Bukharan is said to be a ball buster & the Pamir not so much. I'll let you know how they go in a couple of weeks.
Russia: eastern(dagestan), mid & western tur along with the Sayan ibex & caucasan chamois. (My early mentor told me you cant claim to be a true mountain hunter until you've killed a tur. I've been on 9 hunts and killed 5 for my self. Tur also count on both Ovis & capa lists. 2 for 1 hunt) Great country to hunt with being able to combine a tur & chamois or two tur into 1 trip.
Azerbajan: still closed for now but great tur #s and great trophy quality. Just be careful of discount or cheap hunts. It's not cheap if you dont get an animal.
Mongolia: Absolutely! Amazing adventure and a must do for one of the ibex. The altai is quite a bit larger than the gobi but both can be great hunts.
If you can tell I love to talk about international hunting and like to see people go experience it.
I am not a booking agent but I do have lots of friends I trust & could recommend if interested.
 

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Yeah it does seem really cool.

So just trying to envision a plan here for the 12, I could do.

1. North American Mountain Goat (Canada)
2. Beceite ibex (Spain)
3. Gredos ibex (Spain)
4. Southeastern Ibex (Spain)
5. Ronda Ibex (Spain)
6. Cantabrian Chamois (Spain)
7. Pyrenees Chamois (Spain)
8. Himalayan/Alpine Tahr (Bulgaria)
9. NZ Himalayan Tahr (New Zealand)
10. NZ Chamois (New Zealand)
11. Bezoar Ibex (Turkey)
12. Mid-Asian Ibex (Tajikistan, Kazakhstan, or Kyrgyzstan).

I probably wouldn't hunt half the list in Spain so would likely swap out one or both of the chamois for Chamois or KriKri Ibex in Croatia or an Alpine Ibex in Austria. One of the Tur's could also be an option.

Of course a Markhor would be the pinnacle to any Capra hunt but that's out of my price range.B


Right now Spain and Romania seem like the two standout European destinations for these mountain hunts.
* Austria.

Do you know if there are any mountainous hunts for mouflon or are they generally more of a forest hunt?

NZ is definitely high up on the list for the chamois and Tahr combo. I'm hoping to combo hunt several species on each of these trips to make the most of each experience.

In terms of Asian Ibex I'm seeing a Tajikistan hunt for $10,800 Canadian, the same hunt in Kyrgyzstan for $9,500 Canadian, even less in Kazakhstan. Maybe these aren't reputable outfitters?
 
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I hunted my mouflon on the big island of Hawaii! Took the family along for a vaca and snuck away with a buddy to hunt them. Lots of other places to hunt moulfon, Spain they are in semi open country. The French mainland corsican mouflon is a true hunt in the mountains. They are considered a different species as the European variety. I'm sure you could hunt both in France along with 3-5 different chamois varieties.

The ibex in Tajik are now considered Pamir & Bukharan. The pamir tend to be quite a bit smaller and cheaper. I've hunted them in Kyrg twice and both were great hunts. Cold & lots of climbing. First was a 12 year old 42 inch billy & last time was a 10 year old 51incher. Kazak is know to have great ibex numbers & quality also but I havent any experience there.
 

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Kind of.

It depends though. The vast majority of alpine ibex are in a high fence.

Here in Europe there are about 30 booking agents.

It is my own opinion that WTA charges a heavy American tax, either knowingly or their agent is doing it.

Anyone selling you an Alpine Ibex in USA is going to be adding quite a bit of American tax. WTA's is huge.

This looks like a state forest area: https://worldwidetrophyadventures.com/trips/alpine-ibex/. $26,000 is probably close to what I consider to be the European price of $18-25,000. $6000 for a Class III is complete BS. They are typically 3000 Euros or about $3500.

https://worldwidetrophyadventures.com/trips/first-class-alpine-ibex-hunting-in-austria/. This is a private area. Hence the $35,000 price. This would probably be a $20,000 hunt booked through a German or Austrian agent.

Here is a Swiss agent I have hunted with before. His name is Eric
https://www.capra-adventures.com/wp...fopdf_Download_Alpine-Ibex_Oesterreich_EN.pdf. I think you could do it with Eric for $12000-18,000.

There are Bezoars in top areas of Turkey that will be similar prices. Around $25,000. Everyone is paying the same amount.

Gredos ibex are getting crazy expensive. I would do that if you need to get this done very soon.
Slovenia would be the cheapest for ibex. 165 CIC to 170 CIC which is GOLD was 13.300€ plus 150€ per hunt daylast time i check in 2019 with https://www.slovenia-hunting.com/language/en/hello/
 

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