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Yeah I'd change it to avoid any potential bullet separation issues.
So I made the leap and have 115 dtacs on the way plus a deposit on components from unknown munitions. But I noticed they specd the barrel out at a 7 twist, seems like others are shooting 7.5 or 8 twist from what I can tell. Should I ask for this to be changed?
Nice! Is it coming with a 6mm neck? Description doesn’t say.![]()
ADG Brass - Unknown Munitions
6UM Brass is expected to run in August, it will be 6UM head stamp but will still need to be fireformed. ADG brass was designed not only for consistency, but for durability. One of the ways we accomplished this was adding material to the case in specific areas to strengthen it. With the...www.unknownmunitions.com
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Curious as well, podcast was very unclear, this listing doesn't say if it's just proper headstamp, if it's 6mm neck, what degree shoulder is. Pretty vague.......are they pre-selling something that's an "unknown" of what the actual delivered product is? I'd expect not, just would like some clarity before ordering some.Nice! Is it coming with a 6mm neck? Description doesn’t say.
Nice! Is it coming with a 6mm neck? Description doesn’t say.
Not sure how to know for sure, but those look like they are cut visibly deeper than the ones I shoot for matches.Another piece of the puzzle.
Also how does one tell if they got the deep cut version vs standard? I specified deep cut in the description but it doesn’t say it anywhere in the box.View attachment 674086
What are your load specs on the 25? I have a creed and it's too slow with a shorter tube, so I'm weighing out whether I want to go 25-284 or full swap to PRC.My 10 year old did fine shooting the 25PRC, but it still had a little more recoil than he liked with the suppressor on it.
I doubt it. A lot of people have used prcs and saum cases on medium and long action. I don’t know if the 40’ shoulder would change that.Does anyone know if there would be any cycling issues in a medium action vs a short?
My barrel is now 21 5/8”. I am using ADG 6.5prc brass, BR2 primers, 58gr N565 and Berger 135’s seated to 2.380 CBTO. I have to verify but avg velocity was 2930fps at 50’.What are your load specs on the 25? I have a creed and it's too slow with a shorter tube, so I'm weighing out whether I want to go 25-284 or full swap to PRC.
Regarding the Berger, does the 105 Hybrid perform closer to the ELD-M or the Elite Hunter/VLD line? I want something with pretty rapid upset for sheep and goats in and around cliffs and have everything on your list BUT ELD-M to try in 6mm.No, not necessarily. It’s what specific behavior each person weighs most. The DTAC’s below 2,400’ish FPS impact, generally penetrate 4-6 inches then begins to yaw. Sometimes fragmenting and sometimes not. Generally exiting elk, and so far always exiting deer. It also doesn’t really seem to have a lower limit velocity to that upset- at least to around 1,500fps. The benefit is very wide velocity impact range, exits, and good wound channels after 8’ish inches. The con is the neck length and variable behavior.
ELD-M and X’s upset near immediately, about 50% of the time they will exit deer sized animals, or maybe a bit more. They generally do not exit elk, though they consistently do make it to the offside. They have a lower limit of 1,800fps+ impact for consistent upset. Their advantage in tissue is immediate and consistent upset in tissue and a relatively wide and long wound channel. The price is lower limit upset velocity, and reduced chance for exits on large animals.
Berger Hunting, and VLD’s generally penetrate 4-6 inches before yawing and fragmenting heavily. They only sometimes exit deer sized animals, and almost never elk, though consistently make it to the offside. They have a lower limit impact velocity of 1,900 to 1,800fps. On chest shots, the neck length and rapid fragmentation generally occurs center of the chest cavity, and on the whole will result in the fastest time to incapacitation. The cost, is that long neck length, lack of exits, and somewhat variable performance.
For me-
DTAC’s- very good elk bullets. Ok I’m deer, would not use on black bear by choice.
ELD-M/X- Consistent and solid performance in all animals. Excellent in deer and bear, good in elk. The 103gr ELD-X I need more experience with, and will get more this year.
Berger Hunting/VLD- on good chest shots very good wounding. On high or low edge hits, the neck length can and will result in minimal wounding. For me they are not my choice for how and what I hunt, and how animals are missed or wounded.
It's similar to a VLD, if not a touch tougher with a 4-6" neck length.Regarding the Berger, does the 105 Hybrid perform closer to the ELD-M or the Elite Hunter/VLD line? I want something with pretty rapid upset for sheep and goats in and around cliffs and have everything on your list BUT ELD-M to try in 6mm.