The 22 creedmoor thread

[TradLife406]

Buddy sent me a pic of a stud bull he shot with the 85.5. Said it went down in five seconds. Didn't mention the shot distance.

Yeah the 77's aren't very impressive on the dope card.

 

[TradLife406]

Just ordered up some 90 VLDs...

Anyone have experience with these on game?

Maybe tag [mention]Formidilosus [/mention]
I know the tmk and eldms have a solid track record.

Is there even a difference between hunting and target Bergers? I think Berger said there's a jacket thickness difference. Listening to a Form podcast the other day and I believe he said it's just the label.
I really liked how Bergers did for me on whitetails last year. Sample size of about eight. Using 6.5's 140 and 156.
Only had one doe with the 156 run off without any blood. 2-3" behind the shoulder at about 250 yards. Went about 100 yards and fell over. Everything else either dropped instantly or one doe went for a death run but left a ton of blood.


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[Lawnboi]

Maybe tag [mention]Formidilosus [/mention]
I know the tmk and eldms have a solid track record.

Is there even a difference between hunting and target Bergers? I think Berger said there's a jacket thickness difference. Listening to a Form podcast the other day and I believe he said it's just the label.
I really liked how Bergers did for me on whitetails last year. Sample size of about eight. Using 6.5's 140 and 156.
Only had one doe with the 156 run off without any blood. 2-3" behind the shoulder at about 250 yards. Went about 100 yards and fell over. Everything else either dropped instantly or one doe went for a death run but left a ton of blood.


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I don’t have a ton of Berger experience but they act like Berger describes ime. 2-4” of zero upset, which I don’t prefer for deer.

Target bergers are supposedly thicker jacketed.

I think you will see much more damage toward the entrance side with the eld and tmk. The tmk seem to almost upset immediately, I have often had entrance wounds that were fairly large if none was hit.

Either way, you will not be disappointed in what a tmk does at 3k fps. I actually went away from them because they do border line too much damage. If I’m going to use a 22 cal I like what they do at 223 speeds.

 

[BBob]

Is there even a difference between hunting and target Bergers? I think Berger said there's a jacket thickness difference. Listening to a Form podcast the other day and I believe he said it's just the label.

Target is thicker, hunting is thinner. That said how they act and work in game still seems to be bullet specific dependent not just in jacket thickness. Meaning: Just because it’s a target bullet with a thick jacket doesn’t necessarily mean it won’t work in game, vice versa for a thin jacketed hunting bullet.

 

[mtnbound]

Worked up to 43gr of N555 and couldn't see or feel any signs of pressure, which shocked me, but with an 80eldx or a 77TMK it averaged over 3200 out of my 18" barrel. I'm going to retest it again tomorrow for verification. If this holds true, then I think I have found my new favorite powder.

Doubled check my data from yesterday and had 1 faint ejector mark with the H4350 but nothing with the N555 loads. I think I’ll load 20 of the N555 42.5gr and see how it groups.

 

[TradLife406]

Anyone play with r23? I've got some. I see I can get more if need be. 22 and 26 got me good speed. I'd almost try another 10 shot feeler with both. But kinda pointless if I can't buy more.
I only see r22 and 26 listed by Hornady with the 88's.
Why isn't H4350 in any manuals? Seems popular.


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[Eo12]

Has anyone tried the 100grain mead protected point bullets in the 22creed? And how were the results if so?

 

[rifletuner]

I could never get either the 80 and 88 eldms to group in a 22 creed McGowen. I had a 1:8 tikka 22-250 lying around and I switched to it - same deal, the 80s and 88s don’t group for shit over 4350.

I loaded up 77 TMKs in the same brass with h4350 with near the same charge as the 80s/88s and it shoots 5 shots in a ragged hole. I will keep shooting the 77s but I won’t lie - I’m slightly disappointed. I went into this because of the capabilities of the high BC 80/88s and they just don’t shoot. The TMKs just don’t do anything my 243 with 109s won’t do better.

Are there any other higher BC offerings from say Berger or anyone else that will still upset like an eldm or TMK I should be trying? Or is it worth trying a different powder?

I dont have any hunting experience with these bullets, so no terminal performance that I can report. But we have been running the 80.5gn Berger in my sons 223 Rem PRS rifle. We are getting around 2950fps from a 26" barrel. We have about 3000 rounds through it in the last 18 months and the performance of the 80.5 bullet has been noticeably better than any other heavy 22 cal bullet we have tried. He is constituently getting hits on challenging targets out to almost 800 yards with this bullet.

We built a 22 Dasher for open class PRS and have running the Berger 85.5 in this rifle the whole time. We are getting around 3050fps in a 26" barrel. The accuracy has been looking pretty promising, but we have started having issues which I thank are carbon ring related. It was shooting pretty solidly out to 800 yards, so I dont think it is a bullet issue. But I have shelved it for the moment due to limited time to sort the issue. We wall take a look in a few months once I have more time.

Since I have a good stock of Berger 85.5s, we plan to hunt with our 22 Creed in New Zealand next year, so hopefully we will have a bit of experience on game next year.