The 22 creedmoor thread

[prcwv]

This thread really has my wheels turning. I’ve got a rifle that is in need of a new barrel and I’m torn between the 22 and 6 creed. I’m sitting on a good stash of h1000 and 4831sc. Rifle will mainly be a hunting gun with maybe one steel match a year. Planning on running it at 16-17” to accommodate my ultra 7. For those of you that have shot both, which one would you choose?

I can't speak on a 6 Creed but I'm about to order a 22 Creed barrel for my 110 in either a 18 or 20 inch barrel for just hunting rig. Other is for yotes at night. I just love to shoot it.

 

[Lawnboi]

This thread really has my wheels turning. I’ve got a rifle that is in need of a new barrel and I’m torn between the 22 and 6 creed. I’m sitting on a good stash of h1000 and 4831sc. Rifle will mainly be a hunting gun with maybe one steel match a year. Planning on running it at 16-17” to accommodate my ultra 7. For those of you that have shot both, which one would you choose?

I’m will always struggle with this one. I don’t have a 6 creed hunting barrel but do have a lot of time behind a 6 creed in a match gun. I really think it comes down to prioritizing recoil and what bullet you want to deliver. Ballistics when using the 88 are nearly the same.

That said I couldn’t see building a 22 creedmoor for longer range and not shoot the 88. This puts you in a hard spot if your rifle dosnt care for the bullet. There are quite a few more options in the 6mm category for hunting bullets that I see as potentially suitable.

 

[sportsmans challenge]

This thread really has my wheels turning. I’ve got a rifle that is in need of a new barrel and I’m torn between the 22 and 6 creed. I’m sitting on a good stash of h1000 and 4831sc. Rifle will mainly be a hunting gun with maybe one steel match a year. Planning on running it at 16-17” to accommodate my ultra 7. For those of you that have shot both, which one would you choose?

Are you just using this rifle for small game? In your state can you shoot big game with .224 c.f.?

You can run. 88's at a decent clip and still take big game with it and if you are only doing 1 match a year, wouldn't be to difficult to play along and be good practice with your hunting rig.

I think with the 6cm on a match bullet you are going to be running soo slow that the 88 or 80 may get the upper hand. If you can't use .224 on big game you may think about that as well.

I have 18" 6cm and shoot hornady black 105 grain at like 2750, accurate, but slow. I am doing a 19" 22 cm to go with my ultra 7 specifically for dogs, so I am gonna run 69tmk's fast and should have no issues out at 600yards or more . The 6cm you could always load down too to get speed back up.

 

[Trackselk]

I’m will always struggle with this one. I don’t have a 6 creed hunting barrel but do have a lot of time behind a 6 creed in a match gun. I really think it comes down to prioritizing recoil and what bullet you want to deliver. Ballistics when using the 88 are nearly the same.

That said I couldn’t see building a 22 creedmoor for longer range and not shoot the 88. This puts you in a hard spot if your rifle dosnt care for the bullet. There are quite a few more options in the 6mm category for hunting bullets that I see as potentially suitable.

The monos I shoot have a .47 BC, only 70 grains, bulldozer II 's, they seem to do the trick. FWIW

 

[Fire_9]

Are you just using this rifle for small game? In your state can you shoot big game with .224 c.f.?

You can run. 88's at a decent clip and still take big game with it and if you are only doing 1 match a year, wouldn't be to difficult to play along and be good practice with your hunting rig.

I think with the 6cm on a match bullet you are going to be running soo slow that the 88 or 80 may get the upper hand. If you can't use .224 on big game you may think about that as well.

I have 18" 6cm and shoot hornady black 105 grain at like 2750, accurate, but slow. I am doing a 19" 22 cm to go with my ultra 7 specifically for dogs, so I am gonna run 69tmk's fast and should have no issues out at 600yards or more . The 6cm you could always load down too to get speed back up.

I’m in MT so I can hunt big game with .224. It would primarily be a deer and antelope gun with plans to shoot the 88 or 85.5 Berger. I’m assuming most guys aren’t having issues with bullets coming apart with the shorter barrels since velocity is moderate? I was leaning toward a 7.5 twist to help mitigate that risk though. I’ll probably give the 22 a try.

 

[Lawnboi]

I’m in MT so I can hunt big game with .224. It would primarily be a deer and antelope gun with plans to shoot the 88 or 85.5 Berger. I’m assuming most guys aren’t having issues with bullets coming apart with the shorter barrels since velocity is moderate? I was leaning toward a 7.5 twist to help mitigate that risk though. I’ll probably give the 22 a try.

I’m not even 300 rounds deep but havnt had any blow ups with the 88s. They are also under 2900 in a 16” barrel so I’m sure that helps.

 

[waspocrew]

You might struggle to get the 88’s to stabilize in an 8 twist

Should be totally fine - my 1:8 22-250 AI shoots the 88s very well.

 

[SouthPaw]

I’m in MT so I can hunt big game with .224. It would primarily be a deer and antelope gun with plans to shoot the 88 or 85.5 Berger. I’m assuming most guys aren’t having issues with bullets coming apart with the shorter barrels since velocity is moderate? I was leaning toward a 7.5 twist to help mitigate that risk though. I’ll probably give the 22 a try.

You'll be just fine with a 7.5tw or 8tw. I have a 20" 7.5tw with the 88s doing 3k fps, no issues with bullets poofing and the gun barely moves with minimal recoil. Took my MT muley buck at 551 yards, and he went 10ft.

Go with the 22cm/88eld.

 

[ACHILLES]

This thread really has my wheels turning. I’ve got a rifle that is in need of a new barrel and I’m torn between the 22 and 6 creed. I’m sitting on a good stash of h1000 and 4831sc. Rifle will mainly be a hunting gun with maybe one steel match a year. Planning on running it at 16-17” to accommodate my ultra 7. For those of you that have shot both, which one would you choose?

I’ve got a 6.5creed, a 6creed, a 243win, and the 22creed.

I would easily choose the 22creed over the rest for a light and short suppressed hunting rifle.

 

[Cameron.25]

Base to ogive on the 77 is long, they have a lot of bearing surface.

Iv got more bullet in the case with the 77s than I do the 88s. Not that at matters cause they shoot awesome and honestly powder density and high case fill problems are not a thing in this cartridge with the powders I’m loading.

I would not choose a .160 freebore if my plans were to shoot 88eldm.

What freebore would you choose for the 88? Got one in the works right now, I have some 77 tmk's but leaning towards using the 88

 

[Lawnboi]

What freebore would you choose for the 88? Got one in the works right now, I have some 77 tmk's but leaning towards using the 88

If I had to choose I would go 120 for both bullets. I don’t really care about jump, but depending what you want, I’ll run them 20k off jam and not touch it but if you want more jump I’d go a bit longer

 

[amassi]

.120 is the most versatile for everything from 75eld/m 77 tmk- 88 eld/m 90 A-tip


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[AKG]

Screwed on a new 1:8 pbb, 22" barrel on my Tikka CTR last night and loaded some alpha srp brass with superformance from 38.0-42.0 in .5 grain increments with 77 tmk and cci 450 primers. It's sprinkling rain today and about 40 degrees. I experienced delayed ignition on every shot. I have some h1000, h4350, imr 4350, retumbo, and a handful of other powders in hand but no 4831. Any suggestions on what to try, or should I just order up some lrp brass? My srp collection is heavier than my lrp but I'm not about to run out of either.

Edit: I switched to h4350 which eliminated the delayed ignition. I started at 38.0 and went to 42 grains in .5 grain increments. Midway through I started getting slight primer cratering and faint intermittent swipe.
I then loaded 5 at 39.5 grains and threw them in the freezer for a while, no problems, with a sub moa group. I'm going to run with this load and swap my thermal over to this rifle.

 

[Jake Leibke]

Screwed on a new 1:8 pbb, 22" barrel on my Tikka CTR last night and loaded some alpha srp brass with superformance from 38.0-42.0 in .5 grain increments with 77 tmk and cci 450 primers. It's sprinkling rain today and about 40 degrees. I experienced delayed ignition on every shot. I have some h1000, h4350, imr 4350, retumbo, and a handful of other powders in hand but no 4831. Any suggestions on what to try, or should I just order up some lrp brass? My srp collection is heavier than my lrp but I'm not about to run out of either.

Edit: I switched to h4350 which eliminated the delayed ignition. I started at 38.0 and went to 42 grains in .5 grain increments. Midway through I started getting slight primer cratering and faint intermittent swipe.
I then loaded 5 at 39.5 grains and threw them in the freezer for a while, no problems, with a sub moa group. I'm going to run with this load and swap my thermal over to this rifle.

I had the same issue with superformace and the 450’s.


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[4090Sharps]

I had the same issue with superformace and the 450’s.


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Dang… that’s the combo I was going with. Even sent back LR brass that was mistakenly sent in place of SR brass. My LR supply is almost nonexistent

 

[amassi]

Dang… that’s the combo I was going with. Even sent back LR brass that was mistakenly sent in place of SR brass. My LR supply is almost nonexistent

Small rifle magnum primers work fine with stick powder
Ball powders seem to suffer below freezing for some


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[270quest]

Any chance anyone out there has tried the 77gr Lapua Scenar in the creed? If not that bullet something similar? Scenars always seem to be a bit harder than a berger, so if this bullet was ran at say 3200-3300 FPS, could be devastating on game.

 

[rousseb]

Rifle built by the guys over at [mention]Procision Arms [/mention]


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[sportsmans challenge]

Rifle built by the guys over at [mention]Procision Arms [/mention]


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Good sized dogs

 

[4090Sharps]

I had the same issue with superformace and the 450’s.


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Went out this morning, around 45f. Tried my SR brass with Superformance and CCI 450’s and was met with delayed ignition… enough to perceive the firing pin drop as a separate action immediately prior bullet firing.

Velocities were lower than expected with this combo as well. 2520 fps average out of a 16.5” barrel and 38.5gr Superformance.

Ordered some LR, so we’ll so how those work out. I’m happy to finally have this rifle together.