The 22 creedmoor thread

[ChrisAU]

Loaded up 5 rounds of 77TMK at 2.56” COAL with 40.0 gr of H4831SC and the group shrunk drastically. Average speed was only 2786 with no signs of pressure.

Should I bump my charge weights and see where that puts me or just load up 10 more of these and roll with it if it the groups stay tight? For now this gun will only be a 500 yard and in gun.

What say you guys?

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What barrel length?

 

[Deerfield]

What barrel length?

16.5”

I’m going to keep pushing. I did a little more digging in this thread and it looks like there’s a handful of guys that are running at 42 grains of H4831 with this setup. I’ve always been overly cautious about loading too hot. But it seems like I have a lot of room to work.

 

[B_Reynolds_AK]

16.5”

I’m going to keep pushing. I did a little more digging in this thread and it looks like there’s a handful of guys that are running at 42 grains of H4831 with this setup. I’ve always been overly cautious about loading too hot. But it seems like I have a lot of room to work.

I thought this was the 223 thread for a moment. I shoot the 77 TMK or 80 ELD-M at 2800 from an 18” 223 with 26.0 of N150 with no pressure signs.

You should be around 3100 with those from your 22CM, even from the 16.5” barrel.

 

[ChrisAU]

16.5”

I’m going to keep pushing. I did a little more digging in this thread and it looks like there’s a handful of guys that are running at 42 grains of H4831 with this setup. I’ve always been overly cautious about loading too hot. But it seems like I have a lot of room to work.

I have two 16.5’s, the 77gr TMK load I just settled on is just shy of 3100fps with 42.7gr N555. I got very very light extractor marks at 43.0. I was hoping to use Varget but was was getting those light extractor marks around 3050 FPS with 35.7gr and poor case fill.

 

[mtnbound]

Ive shot several deer with both the 80 Eldx and Eldm now (3250 fps). Am preferring the Eldm at all ranges. The Eldx can pencil for no apparent reason. The Eldm always penetrates and expands.

Thanks for the feedback. Typically, I would go with the M's as well, but in this barrel, the X's shot just a little bit better than the M's. If I'm not satisfied with the terminal performance, I'll load the M's.

 

[Deerfield]

16.5”

I’m going to keep pushing. I did a little more digging in this thread and it looks like there’s a handful of guys that are running at 42 grains of H4831 with this setup. I’ve always been overly cautious about loading too hot. But it seems like I have a lot of room to work.

42 grains put me at 2920 average. But I’m getting some ejector marks.

 

[ACHILLES]

Hodgon data shows 41.2gr h4831 with the 77tmk at 61,600 with alpha brass.
The peterson you’re using has less capacity so your pressures will be much higher but it was worth a try to see where you pressured out.

The 16” 22creed I loaded 80gr eldms for was pushing them 3000 with h1000. But I could have pushed them faster with a different powder.

I ran 80 eldms in a 16” 22arc at 2980fps
And I can run 77tmks right at 3100fps with my 18” 22arc using 31gr of powder.

It would be interesting to see what velocity your rifle ran factory 80eldms. They ran 3050 in the 16” I was shooting.

 

[Deerfield]

Hodgon data shows 41.2gr h4831 with the 77tmk at 61,600 with alpha brass.
The peterson you’re using has less capacity so your pressures will be much higher but it was worth a try to see where you pressured out.

The 16” 22creed I loaded 80gr eldms for was pushing them 3000 with h1000. But I could have pushed them faster with a different powder.

I ran 80 eldms in a 16” 22arc at 2980fps
And I can run 77tmks right at 3100fps with my 18” 22arc using 31gr of powder.

It would be interesting to see what velocity your rifle ran factory 80eldms. They ran 3050 in the 16” I was shooting.

I was getting 2950 with the factory 80eldx. So it’s very possible I just have a slow barrel. I only have about 50 rounds through it so far so there’s still room for it to speed up some.

I have a couple pounds of H1000 on the shelf. I’ll see what I can do with it. If that doesn’t improve anything I’ll just go back to the H4831 and drop back a little. I was getting good groups and for now the speed gets me to where I need to be. I can play around a little more later.

 

[Lawnboi]

I shot 42 of h4831sc in alpha and Peterson with 77 tmk and 80eldx. Right around 3000fps for both

I was getting 2950 with the factory 80eldx. So it’s very possible I just have a slow barrel. I only have about 50 rounds through it so far so there’s still room for it to speed up some.

I have a couple pounds of H1000 on the shelf. I’ll see what I can do with it. If that doesn’t improve anything I’ll just go back to the H4831 and drop back a little. I was getting good groups and for now the speed gets me to where I need to be. I can play around a little more later.

How many rounds on your barrel?

 

[Deerfield]

I shot 42 of h4831sc in alpha and Peterson with 77 tmk and 80eldx. Right around 3000fps for both

How many rounds on your barrel?

I think I’m at 65 rounds through the barrel so far.

 

[cuerro viejo]

42 grains put me at 2920 average. But I’m getting some ejector marks.

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That’s what I’m getting with 223 an 24” barrel. Good news is it’s still hammers, I wouldn’t stress. That barrel with speed up.

 

[Lawnboi]

I think I’m at 65 rounds through the barrel so far.

I would shoot more till your at 120-150 rounds with your 41 grain load, clean the crap out of the barrel, fire some foulers at 41 grains and do a pressure ladder to see whats appropriate in your rifle.

That barrel may speed up but my 42 grain load made ~3000 fps with 77tmk and 80eldx.

 

[TradLife406]

Grand appears to be another Staball variant. Should be really good! I've had a lot of luck with 6.5 in the 6.5. Actually it was the only powder the oem Sig Cross liked.


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[zrodwyo]

Im thinking about having a 22 cm barrel spun up.

What is the point of that low recoil if you can’t even tell if you are hitting or missing your target? Is this a legit concern? With the wind around here I feel like it’s going to be an issue. A heavy .30 or 7mm bullet throws up a big dirt cloud.

 

[Deerfield]

I would shoot more till your at 120-150 rounds with your 41 grain load, clean the crap out of the barrel, fire some foulers at 41 grains and do a pressure ladder to see whats appropriate in your rifle.

That barrel may speed up but my 42 grain load made ~3000 fps with 77tmk and 80eldx.

Loaded 10 at 41 grains. Averaged 2850 fps and .9 moa. The last shot was rushed because my phone started ringing before I shot. If I take it off I was at .6 moa.

I’ll roll with that load for now. Obviously quite a bit slower than I’d like. But even at that it gives me plenty of room to spare past what I’m currently comfortable shooting at game.

 

[TradLife406]

Im thinking about having a 22 cm barrel spun up.

What is the point of that low recoil if you can’t even tell if you are hitting or missing your target? Is this a legit concern? With the wind around here I feel like it’s going to be an issue. A heavy .30 or 7mm bullet throws up a big dirt cloud.

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[willfrye027]

Im thinking about having a 22 cm barrel spun up.

What is the point of that low recoil if you can’t even tell if you are hitting or missing your target? Is this a legit concern? With the wind around here I feel like it’s going to be an issue. A heavy .30 or 7mm bullet throws up a big dirt cloud.

It could be a concern. I find it a little tough to spot misses when it gets to 900-1000 yards with the 22cm. Depends on what you’re hitting when you miss..dusty places no problem. Snow or mud it’s more difficult obviously. I think if those kinds of distances are really common then potentially a bigger bullet might help spot misses.

 

[The Guide]

I see that Choice Ammunition loads the 77gr Barnes LRX for the 22CM. Has anyone tried the 77gr LRX with the 22CM? If it functions anything like the 6mm caliber 95gr LRX, it would be a bullet I would be interested in using on culling/management/depredation hunts when the meat is donated. What speeds are you seeing and have you used that bullet on game?

Jay

 

[Lawnboi]

Loaded 10 at 41 grains. Averaged 2850 fps and .9 moa. The last shot was rushed because my phone started ringing before I shot. If I take it off I was at .6 moa.

I’ll roll with that load for now. Obviously quite a bit slower than I’d like. But even at that it gives me plenty of room to spare past what I’m currently comfortable shooting at game.

I think loading lighter is smart while breaking in the barrel. Once it’s sped up give the velocity a go.

 

[TradLife406]

Hahah Weatherby Reloading has to be the dumbest YouTube channel. I hate giving him views but dang it's fun to read the comments. Some dudes scroll OF, I troll Fudds

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