Tennis Elbow?

[Solowhunter]

I tore something in my forearm elbow last summer, I blame it on every day archery practice and the the handheld release (Stan Onnex) I was using. I go back/forth to an index finger release and that makes a huge difference using different muscels to avoid irritating the damaged area. As I was nursing the forearm and elbow I ended up tearing the front of my shoulder doing incline butterfly lifts, I kept pushing for a few weeks before I accepted that I had done serious damage to my shoulder/rotator cuff????

So I got off the weights and drawing my compound bow for 30 days (all of January) thinking for sure all would heal and I'd be back at it 100%............... Negative. Here it is March and I've found a stretching/excerise routine and learned what not to do with every day tasks to irritate the elbow and shoulder, advil works well. I hate taking pills (even advil/asprin) and dont want to go under the knife, but am getting closer every day to scheduling an MRI.

Everyone and every situation is different, imo if you find the right orthopedic doctor with a good amount of experience and references it could be benifica. My wife had rotator cuff surgery, it was an outpatient operation (scoped) and shes money now. I'm a procrastinator and stubborn but........... if 6+ months of pain doesn't tell you to get that MRI then eat it like that 2024 Eastern Idaho deer tag.

 

[NRA4LIFE]

I haven't played tennis in 45 years but I get it occasionally, mostly from chopping too much kindling at once. Now I regulate that. The arm band with the small pressure thing helps greatly for me. I also have not played golf in 25 years but get "golf elbow" now and again. That's the pain in the inner side of the elbow on the bony knob. There seems to be no treatment for that.

 

[manitou1]

Your a warrior @manitou1 ! I gotta laugh at the thought of running around like a t-rex for 3 days, hopefully the kidney stones didnt occur during that time.

I've had shoulder and elbow pain for +-6 months and as much as it hurts I'm still shooting the compound daily.

Yeah, having t-rex arms after going poo poses quite the dilemma. Thought I was going to have to do the "carpet scoot" like a dog, lol.

Thankfully no stones during the t-rex chapter. .. and not all came at once or I believe it would have killed me.

I used to snack on nuts a LOT. Loved spinach too. No doctor ever questioned my diet, but after researching I discovered that almonds and peanuts cause kidney stones... spinach as well.

Eating healthy is baaad!

 

[manitou1]

I haven't played tennis in 45 years but I get it occasionally, mostly from chopping too much kindling at once. Now I regulate that. The arm band with the small pressure thing helps greatly for me. I also have not played golf in 25 years but get "golf elbow" now and again. That's the pain in the inner side of the elbow on the bony knob. There seems to be no treatment for that.

Yeah, I get golfer's elbow if curling a lot of weight (for me). Hurts pretty bad.
I feel for ya

 

[twall13]

I used to snack on nuts a LOT. Loved spinach too. No doctor ever questioned my diet, but after researching I discovered that almonds and peanuts cause kidney stones... spinach as well.

Eating healthy is baaad!

I eat almonds almost daily as a snack. now you have me worried that kidney stones are in my future...

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[manitou1]

I eat almonds almost daily as a snack. now you have me worried that kidney stones are in my future...

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Ha, my old boss called me into his office to ask about the stones after I spent a night in the E.R. and a few days in agony.

He was eating almonds. I told him eating certain nuts, especially peanuts and almonds can cause kidney stones. Within weeks he was in the hospital with kidney stones.
We both ate almonds and peanuts for snacks every day.

Some people are more susceptible than others. Other factors such as: dehydration and high calcium levels can contribute also.

I spent over three decades in the military and have had some pretty painful injuries and nine surgeries.

I had no idea what pain was until I started having kidney stones. The ones shaped like meteors and cuckleburrs are a real treat.

I gotta say, the T-rex incident was a real close second though, and was even worse than the smaller stones.

 

[Rem6br]

I’ve had it twice and it does indeed suck and takes forever to heal. I used the recommended exercises
and the best one was the twist flex thing it works.

 

[grfox92]

Wow, thanks for the replies guys.

The first time I had it, was from falling asleep in a chair with my son on my arm. We slept like that all night and in the morning it was there. Took months to heal.

This time I got it from yanking a heavy object out of the snow at a weird angle.

I know this is typically thought to come from repetitive motion, and while I will sometimes hand bang a few hundred 16D nails a week, I've only ever been afflicted from what could be explained as a strain. The pain checks all the boxes for "Tennis elbow".

I'm wearing the arm band with the pressure point in it but honestly at work it will never stay where it is supposed to be. It will be easier to adjust in when the weather gets warm and I'm not wearing 4 layers.

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[C.F.]

I’ve got tendinitis in both elbows , inside and out. Here’s the treatments I’ve found starting with mild to severe:
-Arm bands with hard plastic cups to anchor the tendon down
- Advil
- Shockwave treatment and physical therapy
- prescription meloxicam (NSAID)
- cortisone injection (these can cause more long term damage)
- PRP injections. This is considered one of the best treatments for tendon injuries. In Canada it’s around $500 per treatment and I’ve been told it can take up to 3 treatments to see major benefits.
- alternatively people have been self treating at home using peptides (injections), some seeing benefits. It isn’t studied and recorded as well as other treatments. Typically using BPC157 and tb500 for up to 3 months , injecting anywhere from a couple times a week to everyday.
- final solution is surgery, I’d say this is probably your final consideration as you are taking a chance making it worse , losing mobility and strength

 

[C.F.]

This was the best arm band I found when I was using one. It allowed me to do power lineman work, and major house Reno’s I was doing at the time. It really anchors the tendon down and isn’t too bulky. The Velcro strap can be a little rough on your skin, but the whole thing stays in place quite well if you work in construction

BandIT Forearm Tennis Elbow Support

Designed to aid in the relief of Carpal Tunnel Syndrome, Tennis and Golfers Elbow pain without cutting of circulation, hampering movement or causing uncomfortable swelling. The BandIT utilizes Anatomically Focused Dynamic Compression to turn the natural action of the forearm into a natural pump.

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[LFC911]

I have been dealing with weak bicep and lateral forearm pain all summer but avoided getting it looked at and hoped it would get better. After hunting season I have gotten an XRay and MRI and have a confirmed partial tendon tear. I was prescribed 15mg of meloxicam and that is a miracle drug but don't want to take it forever. My Dr said we can try PT but it hasn't gotten better in 6 months, I think I'm just going to have surgery to get it repaired. I don't want to jack around with PT only to have to do surgery down the road and miss hunting season.

Has anyone else had surgery for Tennis Elbow and was it 100% repaired? Any complications? Regrets?

 

[thinhorn_AK]

I had it BAD last year when I was doing lots of chin ups, switching to pull ups has fixed 90% of it but I still feel it a bit here and there.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

I’ve dealt with tendinitis in my elbow for a while now, it sort of comes and goes depending on what I’m doing. It seems to get really bad after shooting one of my longbows. Recurves and compounds don’t seem to irritate it nearly as bad.
One thing that has helped me is using a voodoo band and doing Ischemic compressions with it when I’m feeling pain.
You wrap the band around your arm to completely cover your elbow, and wrap it super tight to the point you are cutting off blood flow. Then after a minute or so, release the band and the sudden rush of blood back into the area is supposed to help with healing. There’s tons of YouTube vids about using voodoo bands to help with joint pain. For me, it hasn’t cured it, but it does help for sure.


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I actually quit dabbling in trad archery because of this. I’d get sharp pains when releasing the arrow. It was bad.

 

[Pilsner]

When mine flares up it's the T-band + whatever the wife tells me to do exercise wise. Household-6 has been in the PT field for nearly 3 decades now, so I just do whatever exercises and stretches she tells me to do. Oddly this is one of the only things that pressure point massage and acupuncture have helped me with. I've mostly noticed it flaring up when I spend a lot of time holding on to high vibration tools while building on our farm or working on projects.
Like Thin_Horn_Ak above me it started to interfere with my archery practice and, more worryingly to me, my pistol practice. At one point I couldn't use a Dewalt screw gun or my 9mm pistol without pain and fatigue.
No Bueno.

 

[Pilsner]

Two words: "Corticosteroid Injection"

Did you know that those injections will INCREASE your chances of tearing connective tissue by a huge factor? They are NOT the answer more than once!

 

[Pickettpuncher]

I done concrete work for years and finally got tennis elbow from swinging a hammer. Felt like a knife being twisted in my arm. Finally let some others drive pins. Changed crews and it went away as we don’t drive pins every day. Got it again this last summer when I went back to helping the concrete guys. I’ve learned to let someone else use a hammer. The arm bands help tremendously.

 

[Rock’N Tacos]

Try a 72 hour water fast.

 

[manitou1]

Did you know that those injections will INCREASE your chances of tearing connective tissue by a huge factor? They are NOT the answer more than once!

Yes it does.
My wife had to have surgery due to damage from the injections.

Now… PRP injections are a different story…