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I posted in another BPC 157 thread that I was doing a cycle of this peptide and would report back. I have 3 unrelated injuries that compounded on me.
On April 19th, we had a 5 inch powder day at the local ski area. For whatever reason, ski patrol had not marked any spring obstacles, of which there were a lot, that morning before opening the lifts. They started marking them after opening. I was first chair and shredding fresh powder at 40+ MPH when I hit a ~2 foot deep hole (lt was like there was a 5 gallon bucket under a thin layer of snow) that was covered with fresh snow and took a pretty good shot resulting in a slightly torn rotator cuff. That healed enough inside of 10 days that it did not impede my day to day life: I could comfortably get a hoody (couldn't put one on or take one off initially) on and off, for example, but super limited in the gym as any weighted shoulder stress hurts and aggravates the shoulder.
About a week later, I was carving through my neighborhood on my longboard, maybe 15 mph, when a car abruptly pulled out of a driveway in front of me. I went down on the pavement pretty hard. I was wearing a helmet, which was good because I smacked the shit out of my head. Lost some skin on an elbow, but jammed the absolute shit out of my right thumb. I thought it was broken for sure, but turns out it wasn't after getting Xrays. Anything that required thumb pressure like opening a screen door was a no-go. I had to turn my key ignition using my fingers.
My left meniscuses fell apart about a year and half a go. There was no trauma. Just went mule deer hunting one weekend and later that week, it crumbled. Recovery was 3-4 months. I think I started putting stress on my knee again (squatting, deadlifting, hiking) after 3 months, but it was super tentative for another month and then eventually stabilized with scar tissue and possibly hardening up enough that its non issue for my lifestyle: strength, training, snowboarding, hiking, backpacking, hunting, peak bagging. I'd be super hesitant to play a pickup game of flag football or a basketball game that is anything more than casual, but I don't play any team sports anyway. During that injury, I went through the whole medical pipeline: MRI, 3 rounds of X rays (one for my GP, another for the orhtos PA and another still for the Orthro who wanted to see the meniscus load bearing) referral to a orthopedic surgeon which required a visit to a GP, an appointment with a Ortho PA (all of this took ~6 weeks) to finally get a ~10 minute appointment with a surgeon who told me to make some lifestyle adjustments come back when I need a knee replacement.
During this recovery timeline, I started taking Boswellia Serrata, Turmeric/Curcumin, Glucosamine, Magnesium Glycinate specially to address the injury. There's at least some data to suggests these may be directly beneficial, but opinions vary. I've stayed on those supplements since then. I'll also note this is addition to taking daily vitamin D, zinc, fish oil and boron, which may or may not have peripheral benefits, depending on who you talk to. These may or may not play a factor in recovery from the next injury.
Early May, I perceived some slight knee discomfort on my right (opposite) knee. I backed off a bit for a week, and it seemed to immediately dissipate. On May 9th, I did my usual spring/summer training hike (1000 feet in .8 miles). On May 10th, I did a big, epic backcountry/ski mountaineering day. Felt great, had a fantastic day: skinned, boot packed, use crampons and rode a fantastic 2700 foot descent. It may have been the best I've ever felt moving in the mountains, just an unbelievable day out:
On May 11th, I again did my training hike. On May 12th, a rest day, I went to work, did my normal 40 minute casual walk after lunch, felt fine. Went home, sat in a chair working for another 2 hours. Stood up and my meniscus fell apart.
I started taking BPC 157 on May 14th. I used this oral capsule: https://infiniwell.com/products/bpc-157-rapid-pro
This was at the informal suggestion of a surgeon who goes to my gym who I have casual conversations with. He wasn't giving medical advice, just mentioned that he's a fan of peptides and that the data he had seen on this oral version looked promising. I thought I would try this first vs DIY injections.
Starting May 16th, I spent an excruciating 8 days completely laid up. Zero range of motion in my right knee. I had to use a walking cane to get out of bed and out of the recliner -could put 0 weight on my right leg. I could not bend my knee enough to get in my truck (not sure I could have even pressured the brake pedal anyway). I couldn't figure out a way to step over the tub into the shower. I sweated all night, I would get freezing cold in the morning to the point that I was under 3 blankets and my teeth were chattering. I iced my knee through the day, kept it elevated, rode out the pain. I finally broke down and took some leftover painkillers my GF had from ACL surgery so I could get some sleep. That was maybe 3 nights. That was 8 days long and it pretty intense all the way around: totally laid up, totally in pain and fairly helpless. I lost 10 pounds with little appetite. I didn't seek any medical treatment as the setup and immediate symptoms were exactly the same as last time. What was different was my body's reaction : it was super intense and very much an overreaction to the injury, but I seemed to run the recovery cycle in a very expedited manner. By day 9, I started getting around better and could get in the shower. By day 10, I put the walking cane up and was able to get in my truck. From there, every single morning was dramatic improvement over the previous one. I started taking 3 slow ~30 walks a day around the neighborhood. Almost 3 weeks after the injury, I went on my first hike, have only the slightest limp and, based on experience from last time, the knee is ready for some stress. I'm going to start doing some box squats and regular conditioning this week and see how it responds, but last time I hit a tipping point where the more I moved and stressed it, the better my knee responded and my intuition says I am there. Good thing because I had some pretty serious atrophy happen during those 3 weeks.
It seems to be the case, from my prior experience with this injury, that I experienced a 3 month recovery in 3 weeks. My thumb has healed up pretty well. Its still a little tight when I fully flex it, but it doesn't' hurt. My rotator cuff, however, is only moderately better, definitely not fully healed after 6 weeks. You can definitely make the case that some experience with the same injury was a factor in an expedited timeline. There is also the factor of the aforementioned supplements potentially helping with inflammation and possibly resulting in some higher quality synovial fluid. I'm not discounting either of those, but based on last time, this was a pretty remarkably expedited timeline of recovery. I'm going to lay off the BPC 157 Peptide for a month and do another cycle in July.
I'm hesitant to make any strong claims here and my GP is going to not be happy once I fill him in on my self experimentation, but that was my initial experience with BPC 157.
On April 19th, we had a 5 inch powder day at the local ski area. For whatever reason, ski patrol had not marked any spring obstacles, of which there were a lot, that morning before opening the lifts. They started marking them after opening. I was first chair and shredding fresh powder at 40+ MPH when I hit a ~2 foot deep hole (lt was like there was a 5 gallon bucket under a thin layer of snow) that was covered with fresh snow and took a pretty good shot resulting in a slightly torn rotator cuff. That healed enough inside of 10 days that it did not impede my day to day life: I could comfortably get a hoody (couldn't put one on or take one off initially) on and off, for example, but super limited in the gym as any weighted shoulder stress hurts and aggravates the shoulder.
About a week later, I was carving through my neighborhood on my longboard, maybe 15 mph, when a car abruptly pulled out of a driveway in front of me. I went down on the pavement pretty hard. I was wearing a helmet, which was good because I smacked the shit out of my head. Lost some skin on an elbow, but jammed the absolute shit out of my right thumb. I thought it was broken for sure, but turns out it wasn't after getting Xrays. Anything that required thumb pressure like opening a screen door was a no-go. I had to turn my key ignition using my fingers.
My left meniscuses fell apart about a year and half a go. There was no trauma. Just went mule deer hunting one weekend and later that week, it crumbled. Recovery was 3-4 months. I think I started putting stress on my knee again (squatting, deadlifting, hiking) after 3 months, but it was super tentative for another month and then eventually stabilized with scar tissue and possibly hardening up enough that its non issue for my lifestyle: strength, training, snowboarding, hiking, backpacking, hunting, peak bagging. I'd be super hesitant to play a pickup game of flag football or a basketball game that is anything more than casual, but I don't play any team sports anyway. During that injury, I went through the whole medical pipeline: MRI, 3 rounds of X rays (one for my GP, another for the orhtos PA and another still for the Orthro who wanted to see the meniscus load bearing) referral to a orthopedic surgeon which required a visit to a GP, an appointment with a Ortho PA (all of this took ~6 weeks) to finally get a ~10 minute appointment with a surgeon who told me to make some lifestyle adjustments come back when I need a knee replacement.
During this recovery timeline, I started taking Boswellia Serrata, Turmeric/Curcumin, Glucosamine, Magnesium Glycinate specially to address the injury. There's at least some data to suggests these may be directly beneficial, but opinions vary. I've stayed on those supplements since then. I'll also note this is addition to taking daily vitamin D, zinc, fish oil and boron, which may or may not have peripheral benefits, depending on who you talk to. These may or may not play a factor in recovery from the next injury.
Early May, I perceived some slight knee discomfort on my right (opposite) knee. I backed off a bit for a week, and it seemed to immediately dissipate. On May 9th, I did my usual spring/summer training hike (1000 feet in .8 miles). On May 10th, I did a big, epic backcountry/ski mountaineering day. Felt great, had a fantastic day: skinned, boot packed, use crampons and rode a fantastic 2700 foot descent. It may have been the best I've ever felt moving in the mountains, just an unbelievable day out:
On May 11th, I again did my training hike. On May 12th, a rest day, I went to work, did my normal 40 minute casual walk after lunch, felt fine. Went home, sat in a chair working for another 2 hours. Stood up and my meniscus fell apart.
I started taking BPC 157 on May 14th. I used this oral capsule: https://infiniwell.com/products/bpc-157-rapid-pro
This was at the informal suggestion of a surgeon who goes to my gym who I have casual conversations with. He wasn't giving medical advice, just mentioned that he's a fan of peptides and that the data he had seen on this oral version looked promising. I thought I would try this first vs DIY injections.
Starting May 16th, I spent an excruciating 8 days completely laid up. Zero range of motion in my right knee. I had to use a walking cane to get out of bed and out of the recliner -could put 0 weight on my right leg. I could not bend my knee enough to get in my truck (not sure I could have even pressured the brake pedal anyway). I couldn't figure out a way to step over the tub into the shower. I sweated all night, I would get freezing cold in the morning to the point that I was under 3 blankets and my teeth were chattering. I iced my knee through the day, kept it elevated, rode out the pain. I finally broke down and took some leftover painkillers my GF had from ACL surgery so I could get some sleep. That was maybe 3 nights. That was 8 days long and it pretty intense all the way around: totally laid up, totally in pain and fairly helpless. I lost 10 pounds with little appetite. I didn't seek any medical treatment as the setup and immediate symptoms were exactly the same as last time. What was different was my body's reaction : it was super intense and very much an overreaction to the injury, but I seemed to run the recovery cycle in a very expedited manner. By day 9, I started getting around better and could get in the shower. By day 10, I put the walking cane up and was able to get in my truck. From there, every single morning was dramatic improvement over the previous one. I started taking 3 slow ~30 walks a day around the neighborhood. Almost 3 weeks after the injury, I went on my first hike, have only the slightest limp and, based on experience from last time, the knee is ready for some stress. I'm going to start doing some box squats and regular conditioning this week and see how it responds, but last time I hit a tipping point where the more I moved and stressed it, the better my knee responded and my intuition says I am there. Good thing because I had some pretty serious atrophy happen during those 3 weeks.
It seems to be the case, from my prior experience with this injury, that I experienced a 3 month recovery in 3 weeks. My thumb has healed up pretty well. Its still a little tight when I fully flex it, but it doesn't' hurt. My rotator cuff, however, is only moderately better, definitely not fully healed after 6 weeks. You can definitely make the case that some experience with the same injury was a factor in an expedited timeline. There is also the factor of the aforementioned supplements potentially helping with inflammation and possibly resulting in some higher quality synovial fluid. I'm not discounting either of those, but based on last time, this was a pretty remarkably expedited timeline of recovery. I'm going to lay off the BPC 157 Peptide for a month and do another cycle in July.
I'm hesitant to make any strong claims here and my GP is going to not be happy once I fill him in on my self experimentation, but that was my initial experience with BPC 157.
