Telepathy - truth or science fiction?

[Pharmseller]

 

[FuddRucker]

Heard about this recently, and I do not buy that this is any different than the whole "facilitated communication" debacle.

 

[DapperDan]

Literally experimental design for 101 (actually remedial 100 level) demonstrates how ridiculously poor and uncontrolled her techniques are. Pure queueing on the part of the hokus pokus Dr. Let's list a few bullets of her negligent techniques. Then maybe take a minute to learn why you were fooled by something so obviously unscientific. Dunning-Kruger. Look that up. Then go to YouTube and watch the Balogna Detection Kit video.

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Top 10 Most Obvious Problems with the "Harvard Telepathic Autistic Kids" Tapes:

No Official Harvard Study: There is no verified study from Harvard University supporting these claims.

Anonymous Sources: The children and researchers involved are rarely named or confirmed.

No Peer Review: The tapes were never published in any scientific journal for review.

Lack of Physical Evidence: No recordings, transcripts, or data are publicly available.

Extraordinary Claims: Telepathy contradicts everything known about brain science.

No Reproducibility: No one else has been able to repeat the results.

Misuse of Scientific Terms: Terms like “quantum” and “frequencies” are thrown around without clear meaning.

Emotional Appeal: Stories often focus on dramatic or heartwarming elements instead of evidence.

Tied to Pseudoscience Movements: Often linked to fringe theories and anti-mainstream science narratives.

Viral Hoax Patterns: Shares features with other internet hoaxes—mystery, secrecy, and supposed cover-ups.

Scientific Community Summary (Simple Language):
Scientists say there's no good proof that telepathy is real, and the Harvard tapes have no verified research behind them. The claims don’t follow the rules of science, like testing things and showing your work. So, most scientists believe these tapes are either made-up or misunderstood stories.

The claims about telepathic abilities in nonverbal autistic children are primarily associated with "The Telepathy Tapes," a podcast series created by documentary director Ky Dickens. This series presents accounts suggesting that some nonverbal autistic individuals can communicate telepathically. The podcast's website offers videos purportedly demonstrating these abilities; however, access to these videos is restricted behind a paywall.

While these videos are available online, it's important to note that they have not been subjected to rigorous scientific validation. Critics argue that the observed communications can be explained by known psychological phenomena, such as the ideomotor effect, where facilitators may unconsciously guide the responses of the individuals. This skepticism is rooted in the lack of empirical evidence supporting telepathy and the potential for bias in the methods used to demonstrate these claims.

Given the current scientific understanding, the broader scientific community remains unconvinced by these claims due to the absence of reproducible evidence and methodological concerns surrounding the demonstrations.

Again, I said it warrants further investigation. You’re more than welcome to throw the baby out with the bath water though.


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[bozeman]

If the baby was telepathic then it would know to hang on tight so you could only throw out the bath water......

 

[DapperDan]

This claim overlooks so much it is effectively a lie. For example, the measles component of MMR underwent a RCT that completed in 1966, it was placebo controled, and enrolled 4,758 patients. Other components had similar testing.

Beyond that, we have mountains of post approval studies covering hundreds of thousands that find no such side effect rates. something like over 48 RCTs covering thousands of patients.


Lawsuit that Marek prevailed in. Beyond that, the suit only alleged lack of efficacy at the end off shelf life. AKA, this article intentionally miss represents the facts, also know as lying. Funny, lying to call others liars, in a twisted way, it makes sense.

Physicians for informed consent thinks it is safer to get infected and claims measles only kills 1 in 90,000. I guess the current measles outbreak has infected 180,000 people given two have died from it. That or they are lying, I vote for the latter as the former doesn't add up.

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You are more than welcome to do you when it comes to big pharma. Me and my family are out. I’ve seen/read enough to make a very informed and educated decision. So much so that no amount of money could convince me to no back to work as a registered nurse. Glad I was out pre covid. They would have fired me and stopped my license anyways…


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[DapperDan]

This claim overlooks so much it is effectively a lie. For example, the measles component of MMR underwent a RCT that completed in 1966, it was placebo controled, and enrolled 4,758 patients. Other components had similar testing.

Beyond that, we have mountains of post approval studies covering hundreds of thousands that find no such side effect rates. something like over 48 RCTs covering thousands of patients.


Lawsuit that Marek prevailed in. Beyond that, the suit only alleged lack of efficacy at the end off shelf life. AKA, this article intentionally miss represents the facts, also know as lying. Funny, lying to call others liars, in a twisted way, it makes sense.

Physicians for informed consent thinks it is safer to get infected and claims measles only kills 1 in 90,000. I guess the current measles outbreak has infected 180,000 people given two have died from it. That or they are lying, I vote for the latter as the former doesn't add up.

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So, about you scary measles….

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[EastHumboldt]

Once I was walking down the street, and I saw a poster on the ground. It said “psychic convention” with the date and place. I asked myself “Why do they need a poster?”

 

[DapperDan]

Wonder why they pulled that Brady bunch episode from the networks????


Probably bc it goes 100% against their narrative and blows holes all in big pharma. But keep getting in line as the number of vaccine injuries just keep getting higher and higher and as autism rates near 1:30…..


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[DapperDan]

Once I was walking down the street, and I saw a poster on the ground. It said “psychic convention” with the date and place. I asked myself “Why do they need a poster?”

Epic fail on humor attempt.


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[EastHumboldt]

Epic fail on humor attempt.


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I fail often, but I just keep on trying.

 

[DapperDan]

I fail often, but I just keep on trying.

Well that’s a winning spirit!


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[EastHumboldt]

Well that’s a winning spirit!


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I do have anecdotal, it not peer reviewed, evidence that I’m quite funny… sometimes.

 

[fwafwow]

I fail often, but I just keep on trying.

If you were telepathic, you would know what we find funny. (I did laugh.)

 

[Marbles]

You are more than welcome to do you when it comes to big pharma. Me and my family are out. I’ve seen/read enough to make a very informed and educated decision. So much so that no amount of money could convince me to no back to work as a registered nurse. Glad I was out pre covid. They would have fired me and stopped my license anyways…


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Calling a decision informed and educated doesn't make it such. Hours of "research" that lead to easily debunked claims is informed, but not with the correct inputs. Like building a house with a level that is off by 10 degrees.

You can do and say what you want, but I don't have to tell you it is a good idea or let bad arguments stand unchallenged.

You being an RN at one point has no barring on the validity of your decisions nor this discussion. Nor do whatever education and licensure I may or may not have. Nice try though.

Vaccine injuries (the real ones, not imaginary links to autism), are like arguing against seat belts because 1 in 1000 MVC fatalities would have likely survive if rejected from the vehicle, so seatbelts are dangerous and shouldn't be used. Your crystal ball doesn't work, the smart thing is to stack the odds in your favor. In the end, sometimes the advantage is too small or too questionable to be worth the effort, but that should be based on the available data, not phantoms conjured from fear.

 

[Pharmseller]

Be careful how you speak about Big Pharma.

We’re listening.

Like Santa Claus, we see everything.




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[Pharmseller]

Epic fail on humor attempt.


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I thought it was pretty good.



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[FuddRucker]

I'll believe it when one of these telepathic folks predicts when I'm gonna draw a tag or puts me on a BOAL.

 

[hereinaz]

I had a feeling this thread would come up.

 

[FuddRucker]

I had a feeling this thread would come up.

Have you been vaccinated? You may be telepathic...

 

[hereinaz]

Have you been vaccinated? You may be telepathic...

I’m mostly into time travel, so future me told me not to get vaccinated.

I will say that some stuff happens that is too specific for chance between two really connected people. Kinda freaks me a little.

Joe Rogan talks about some podcast with autistic kids. Sounds amazing if true.