Telepathy - truth or science fiction?

I never said mice tele connect. I said it was observed in studies done at Harvard, Edenburgh, and Melbourne that when rats in one place solved the maze that rats in other areas started solving them more easily. Every pseudo scientific explanation I have heard is totally unsubstantiated though coincidence seems unlikely. I mentioned it as simply an observed phenomenon that we do not have an explanation for.

I am highly skeptical of at least the conclusions drawn in the telepathy tapes if not how they captured what phenomenon they claimed to capture. The simplest explanation is that it was faked.

I would like to know more myself. But, if it’s faked then it was faked by not just the Dr but the families that are located around the world as well as care takers and teachers.


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Can you quote peer reviewed clinical trials instead of screen shots of social media?

Clinical trials always report AEs, even in placebo groups. You very much expect AEs in a vaccine trial.

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The older I get the more I realize or learn that I don't know as much as I thought, and what everyone (including myself) knew over time turns out to be incorrect. So I am trying to be a healthy skeptic, so I start off not believing much - even other skeptics. So fwiw...apologies for what follows.

Usually, peer reviewed articles/publications from the past can help with this. Due diligence is a personal choice.
They can, but I'm now of a view that peer reviewed articles and publications suffer from human behavior, including greed, ego, apathy and group think. A recent book "Doctored" by Piller goes through a few of those traits (including outright fraud) in some very main stream and well-respected Alzheimer's research.
So, what you’re saying is that a neuropsychiatrists that is doing a documentary on what she’s researching based on parents/family/teacher testimonials is bs?
Not sure anyone says not believing someone is bs, maybe just healthy skepticism. And for me, extraordinary claims (that someone can transmit and another can receive thoughts, or however explained) require extraordinary evidence. The fact that she is a neuropsychiatrist doesn't mean she is immune from above-referenced flaws.
I won’t get into peer reviewed articles/publications. Let’s just say that grant money can be a power influencer. That’s a FACT.
Agreed

Ok. Let’s start with your source. Skeptic.org.uk

A year ago they were still pushing the “it wasn’t a lab leak”…
Lots of people got that wrong, and plenty of other stuff. That someone was wrong in the past doesn't, alone, mean they are wrong again. But a skeptic posting about any complicated topic via social media makes me think he isn't very serious. But I don't think many people are serious.
Not saying it’s 100% proof. It’s a short video clip. But listening to the podcast adds compelling evidence that 100% warrants further investigation and serious consideration. So here is my question. WHY CANT SHE GET FUNDING FOR FURTHER STUDIES??? She’s spent years trying to get funding.
One - very little research is funded other than by for profit companies, and usually pharmaceutical companies. It makes sense, but it's unfortunate. It's one area in which I would agree with more government spending - but that's a theory and any group of people of more than maybe 5 people are highly likely to screw that up in another way, and if it's a gov't program, double the chances.

In this case, I can't quite think of a reason I would personally support spending money on this project. Other than curiosity and the "wow' factor, I don't see the importance or relevance, at least in my life. YMMV.

Because her work doesn't hold up to scrutiny.
^^^this is science, or at least part of it. Everyone should try to prove someone else's theory wrong. Unfortunately much is done today instead that builds upon someone else's hypothesis, even if the studies that the proponent has published supporting said hypothesis has never been replicated. See "Doctored" referenced above, and something called the Replication Crisis.
I mean, I believe God has personally communicated with me, no way to subject that to science and I've come to be at peace with the idea that it doesn't matter. I don't try to dress it up in pseudoscience argument though. And, anyone that makes a claim that can be tested should test it and have those tests reproduced with similar results by others.
I knew it! God told you to buy more gear, right? Me too!
So, listen to the podcasts and you’ll hear how tests were reproduced by others with exact results.
I haven't even listened to the podcast (I will be trying to listen to the first one, to try to be a good sport), but I find this even more unlikely than the underlying premise. See Replication Crisis above, which applies to even "normal" scientific research.
Again, needs to be further looked into. But until then we should call the parents and autistic kids crazy nut jobs though right? Since, it’s their stories being told. By them. The neuropsychiatrist is just the only person that is willing to listen. So let’s attack her.
I may have missed in this thread where someone attached the kids and parents. She's putting herself out there and making big claims, so she should expect some skepticism and criticism. Not sure we attacked her here either.
If I’ve learned one thing it’s that I will never trust main stream medicine ever again ESPECIALLY any pharmaceutical company. I firmly believe there are some serious truths that will be exposed and I’m excited for it. It’s time to pull back the curtain. On everything.
I agree with much of the above, and that's part of my skepticism. There are plenty of "knowns" that we now know were wrong - Sun revolving around the Earth, Earth is flat, Vioxx is a wonder drug, get 6 weeks of bed rest after a heart attack. Who knows now what we believe that will later be found to be invalid?

Investing resources into already investigated areas harms, rather than helps, those afflicted. But, when we don't have an answer, human nature is to try the same things that have already failed again, and again, and again.
This was one of the saddest parts of "Doctored" above - the incredible amount of money spent on research that has not yielded anything, and in a material respect, was based upon fraudulent foundational aspects. Just think about how that money could have been better allocated.
When it is reviewed and repeated - probably by several more teams - then OK, maybe we have something. Until then, yawn.

The beauty of science/scientific method is that it self-corrects, and will always ask more questions. Dogma? Not so much.
I would normally absolutely agree on this point and would await replication. Unfortunately today the news of replication is often conveyed by writers who don't know the difference between correlation and causation ("Red wine makes you live longer!"). But since I've gone through this insane mulit-post quote post, I should probably spend at least a few minutes listening to it. But I might start with the link that @Marbles posted.
Listening to podcast now. It’s a great listen. I could have read reviews before listening but I try not to go into something with a biased mindset.
IMHO you should be biased that it is not real.
I actually wish some academics would engage in a debate with him as I think while in a vacuum many of his ideas sound logical they would fall apart in a debate format. Ad-hominum attacks and just saying "the science is settled" tends to actually add to his credibility.
^^^ this. If only there was some sort of forum in which a rational and neutral reporter would ask someone who is a proponent and opponent and then we can hear both sides.
I do think he brings up some items that are worth opening the books on, some that are pure trash based on hearing the case be makes alone.
I, for one, was surprised at some of the things he has written about that were news to me - Fauci's work and critics during the beginning of AIDS (etc.), some of the ingredients in vaccines and a few other things. The problem is that some of the other claims are not as easily verifiable and just sound whacko, which then makes me question other stuff.
Much conventional science is the best answer we have today even though there is lots that it does not explain and lots of it that will be proven wrong in the future. It not explaining everything is not a conspiracy and those that think it is dont understand it. Likewise those that think the current science is all proven fact that will stand the test of time are either delusional or need to read a history book.
Truth
You’re way off target. But ok. The podcaster didn’t prove anything. She presenting the findings. Good lord.
I think he was referring to the 100% success rate you mentioned and/or that others have reproduced it with exact results.
 
You have to look at this like aliens. It's cool if it's real. Even if it isn't, it's interesting and entertaining. I hope it's real.
 
OK - I'm almost done with the article @Marbles posted. Am I correct that the person who sees the number, word (whatever) is the parent and who is also using facilitated communication? OP - have you read that article?

To answer the question in the subject line - I"m going for option #3 - ideomotor effect. I also changed my mind. I won't listen to the podcast. I'd be tempted to watch the video, but I won't pay for it.
 
OK - I'm almost done with the article @Marbles posted. Am I correct that the person who sees the number, word (whatever) is the parent and who is also using facilitated communication? OP - have you read that article?

To answer the question in the subject line - I"m going for option #3 - ideomotor effect. I also changed my mind. I won't listen to the podcast. I'd be tempted to watch the video, but I won't pay for it.

No I haven’t, just skimmed over it. Just an opinion piece honestly.

So,sometimes, yes the person that sees the image is the parent. And sometimes the child/person is communicating completely on their own. Sometimes the person that sees the image is not the parent.

I think it needs further investigation. There are autistic kids that are savants with an unbelievable skill set that is completely unexplainable.


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You know what miraculously never works? Simply separating two people to where they can't see or hear one another, OR the doctor/testers, and asking them literally anything that would demonstrate telepathic communication.

What works? All kinds of poorly designed experiments.




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If you don’t want to listen to the podcast, here is a video podcast with the lady who did the podcast series. It shows some video of the children as well. She admits that she was very skeptical as was her crew.



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Tell me you didn’t click on either link I posted without telling me you don’t click on either link…
Correct, I did not click your link to social media.

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So more non-peer reviewed publications.

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And yet more non-peer reviewed publications.
 
No I haven’t, just skimmed over it. Just an opinion piece honestly.

So,sometimes, yes the person that sees the image is the parent. And sometimes the child/person is communicating completely on their own. Sometimes the person that sees the image is not the parent.

I think it needs further investigation. There are autistic kids that are savants with an unbelievable skill set that is completely unexplainable.


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The opinions in that article, and statements of fact (how the video displays what is being done) are more believable than thoughts passing through the air, but only by autistic kids, and only those autistic kids who can't communicate on their own.

Demonstrating a rational basis for for disproving a theory is way more valuable than a hypothesis that is being "tested" in ways that clearly suffer from subconscious (or worse) inputs. It's like a scope that fails tells us more than a scope that passes.
 
Correct, I did not click your link to social media.


So more non-peer reviewed publications.


And yet more non-peer reviewed publications.

lol. So information posted by physicians isn’t enough. Why don’t you go do your own searching then???


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The opinions in that article, and statements of fact (how the video displays what is being done) are more believable than thoughts passing through the air, but only by autistic kids, and only those autistic kids who can't communicate on their own.

Demonstrating a rational basis for for disproving a theory is way more valuable than a hypothesis that is being "tested" in ways that clearly suffer from subconscious (or worse) inputs. It's like a scope that fails tells us more than a scope that passes.

Again, I think there is enough there that warrants further testing. And I haven’t seen much video. I think that is coming in a documentary. At least I hope. With that said, there is a kid that was typing out words on a flash card that his mom was looking at across a room. Same kid was spelling out words at the same time as the lady doing the podcast was writing them down on a flash card. Im interested to see where this goes. I know they are wanting to do further testing.


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lol. So information posted by physicians isn’t enough.
No, it’s not.


Why don’t you go do your own searching then???
I’m a chemist by training and ex-professor, who now works on the clinical trial side of biopharma for a living. I have spent lots and lots of time with peer reviewed literature.
 
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