Talk me out of a 30-06

[Dcrafton]

There is nothing wrong with a 30-06 ay all, but you can find them all day for $500 and under.
Get the rifle you want. I’d go for the one you been hoping for.
Or get them both.
My first deer was with a m70 featherweight 30-06.
Now if I owned one it would be a safe queen.


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[CApighunter]

Everyone should have at least one -06. I’m quite fond of mine, a pre 64 Winchester 70.

 

[clperry]

Since you reload go 300 WM, 22" barrel, call it good. No question IMO. Load on the light side it's close to a hot 30-06 in FPS. Or go full 300 WM loads. Lot of flexibility.

My 30-06 (22" barrel), 168 grain TTSX, right around 2780 fps.

Not a fan of 24" barrels for Western hunting applications. You will appreciate the shorter barrel when your hiking up/down hills, crawling on your knees, full belly crawl, etc.

My 300 WM, 175 grain LRX, 3011 fps, maximum velocity per manual is 3079 fps. If I loaded to minimal velocity, per reloading manual, 2779 fps.

Same bullet (175 grain LRX), 30-06, max grains, 2713 ps (H4350). So the minimal velocity for the 300 WM is 2779 and the max velocity for the 30-06 is 2713.

FWIW.

Thanks! This is what I was hoping someone could tell me. This helps me a lot.


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[N2TRKYS]

If I was going with a 22” barrel and open to other cartridges, I’d find a Remington Model Seven SS in 300 SAUM or 7 SAUM.

Those rifles are AWESOME!!!

 

[clperry]

I have a Tikka 308 with a Leopold VII 3x9x40 for deer, Remington 700 Mountain rifle in 30 06 with a Swarovski 3x9x36 for deer, Browning X Bolt Speed in 30 06, with a Bushnell Forge 3x18x50 for elk and a Browning X Bolt Max Long Range in 300 win mag with a Bushnell 3x18x50 for elk. So my vote is yes.....lol. I also have a Winchester Model 70 243 with a Sightron 3x9x50 for other smaller stuff!

How’s that x bolt LR max treating you?


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[shmtastic]

I love my 30-06 and bought it just for hunting elk. It's a CA classic and is perfect. It has a tight chamber and shoots factory ammo well above advertised velocity. Sako Super Hammerhead 180gr were getting 2899 five shot strings from it. Fired from my other 30-06, they were getting the advertised 2740 fps.

I keep 180gr Accubonds between 2800-2830 fps with several grains under book max, letting my chrono tell me my max. Took a medium sized WT deer with that load this year, he never took a step.

I love magnum rifles but will never let go of my 30-06s. Go get it.

 

[dla]

That 30-06 will basically be your 308, just around 100fps faster. If it's worth it for you, then go for it.

More like 200fps faster with newer powders. The 308 is case limited.

 

[Maverick1]

”Talk me out of a 30-06”
OK.
“Don’t buy a 30-06.”
“You can only hunt with one rifle at a time.“
“There is a lot of overlap in your existing armory”

 

[Squincher]

Talk you out of the finest big game cartridge devised for hunting North America? Can't do it.

 

[alexanderg23]

I noticed something interesting the other day. Nosler loads their 165gr Accubonds in 30-06 and 308 to the exact same velocity, 2800fps. Seems odd, you'd think they would load the 30-06 a little hotter.

More like 200fps faster with newer powders. The 308 is case limited.

 

[N2TRKYS]

More like 200fps faster with newer powders. The 308 is case limited.

What powder are you using to get a 165 grain Accubond going 3000fps in your 30-06? I wouldlike to try it in mine.

Thanks

 

[Dirt Wagon]

I noticed something interesting the other day. Nosler loads their 165gr Accubonds in 30-06 and 308 to the exact same velocity, 2800fps. Seems odd, you'd think they would load the 30-06 a little hotter.

It's because they don't want to be sued for customers using properly loaded 30-06 in rifles that are over a 100 years old that can't handle the pressures like today's rifles can.

It makes no sense that a 30-06 can't beat a 308 hands down when loaded to today's standards.

 

[alexanderg23]

It's because they don't want to be sued for customers using properly loaded 30-06 in rifles that are over a 100 years old that can't handle the pressures like today's rifles can.

It makes no sense that a 30-06 can't beat a 308 hands down when loaded to today's standards.

Ah interesting theory.

 

[howl]

If you have a 270 WSM, the .308 and 30/06 would just be backups on an elk trip.

 

[clperry]

If you have a 270 WSM, the .308 and 30/06 would just be backups on an elk trip.

The 270 WSM is a A bolt M1000 eclipse. It weighs around 12 pounds scoped out.


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[Dirt Wagon]

Ah interesting theory.

Pretty much the same for 45-70 rifles.

For instance, the M1 Garand was designed to shoot M2 ball ammo & not modern day full power ammo. Doing so will damage the operating rod without modification to the rifle.

InRangeTV Test on the Garand with modern ammo.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

Not owning a 30-06 is pretty damn UN-American....

Even here in AK where there are big animals I see far more 06s than anything else, The 06 just flat out works.

 

[clperry]

So you have a 270 WSM and a 308 WIN, and are now considering a 30-06. At that rate, you'll have all your bases covered with 101 rifles.

I have several rifles from 22’s to smokeless muzzleloaders. They’re all a little different. Some were gifts, others just cause. I don’t own a 30-06, and wanted to hear what folks thought. It’s not really about the money or whether or not I need another rifle. But I also don’t like to buy things just for the sake of buying them. This rifle just kind of hit me the right way and if it would have been a 300 win mag, I’d have already bought it. Just wanted some opinions on the caliber primarily for elk from the guys using it.


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[AkMtnRunner]

I have several rifles from 22’s to smokeless muzzleloaders. They’re all a little different. Some were gifts, others just cause. I don’t own a 30-06, and wanted to hear what folks thought. It’s not really about the money or whether or not I need another rifle. But I also don’t like to buy things just for the sake of buying them. This rifle just kind of hit me the right way and if it would have been a 300 win mag, I’d have already bought it. Just wanted some opinions on the caliber primarily for elk from the guys using it.


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Ah, I see.

In light of your hope for the 300 WM, I would wait until you find that right combination.

 

[rbljack]

Ok so your 308 is heavy barrel...Id look into how much the 06 weighs. My savage 110 (in 30-06) is pretty light being that its synthetic stock. In comparison, my wife has a weatherby vanguard 270 that is HEAVY. I toted that thing around the mtns for her on a deer hunt and I can easily tell the difference. If you want the 06 for elk, figure out what it weighs and if it meets your expectations....grab it up.