Swazi.......Yeah I'll Pass....

[thinhorn_AK]

I guess ill have to cut the label off my Swazi hood.

 

[BRTreedogs]

I have a couple thousand dollars worth of Swazi in my closet. It is warm, quiet, windproof and waterproof in the garmets that are supposed to work that way. He makes a variety of clothing for a lot of cold wet weather.

Davy is a small business owner, in the world stage he is a tiny speck of a company in the garment world.

He also lives in a almost totally unarmed society. Aside from hunters, bad guys and police no one really has firearms. The mass public lost fireams ownership without a valid reason (hunting license, military career, sport shooting) years ago. Gun ownership and crime are both very low. Other than the Swiss, Americans are unique in the world on firearms ownership. You should judge another nation based on what is right for that nation.

I have lived all over the world, Europe, Australia and Asia and firearms ownership at our American level doesn't really exist.

Gun crime is common in 3rd world countries, but not in places like New Zealand.

In the mind of most New Zealanders, there is zero need for a firearm fore self protection. There are not bears, or tigers, or anything else roaming the countryside. The only problem animals are those humans lowlifes that exist in every society.

He is also one of the largest garment companies in New Zealand, and most Kiwis own clothing made by him. His fleece pull over and poley shorts are a classic Kiwi male uniform year round. Davy has NZ defense, search and rescue, and police garment contracts as well as being the primary uniform for construction workers, trades personnel and farmers. Everyone in New Zealand knows his product lines and wears it.

He is a loudmouth and well known by most Kiwis. So of course he was going to speak on the subject.

In my mind he had a decision to make.

1. Support the ban, knowing that the number of Kiwis that owned semi-autos was low.
2. Fight the ban and lose a huge part of his business, maybe even be snuffed out of his government contracts all together.

He is smart enough to know that New Zealand is going to shut down sem-auto firearms the same way Australia did. So why would he lose his entire company for standing in the way of a ban. A ban that most Kiwis approve of.

If you have not lived outside the USA or you live in a totally red state, you may not know that the numbers are against the polite society of firearms owners. Australians, Kiwis and Europeans allow hunters to manage wildlife, and own firearms to make it work.

We are lucky in the USA we don't live in that kind of society.

But let's be really honest, they don't deal with our murder rates. We are 89th in the world with 5.3 murders per 100,000 per year. New Zealand is 199th with .7 murders per 100,000. Yellowstone National Park averages more murders than New Zealand.

Davy is just doing what is right for New Zealand and his business model.

How many of you are wearing jeans produced by some anti-gun company? Like Wrangler or Levis?

I shop at Costco, and occasionally buy shoes for my kids at Dicks. Both of them are anti-gun.

I don't have time or the patience in my life to completely ignore a company based on their politics. If you do then that is awesome, more power to you. When I was younger and more idealistic it was a lot easier. Now I have a job and kids to feed.

What Davy did isn't ideal, but he wasn't going to sink with the ship. I would judge him that way.

World is pretty big, most of you have never even seen his gear in action. Or known someone that owns it.

He had a 3rd option, just keep his mouth shut and opinion to himself.

 

[grfox92]

I have a couple thousand dollars worth of Swazi in my closet. It is warm, quiet, windproof and waterproof in the garmets that are supposed to work that way. He makes a variety of clothing for a lot of cold wet weather.

Davy is a small business owner, in the world stage he is a tiny speck of a company in the garment world.

He also lives in a almost totally unarmed society. Aside from hunters, bad guys and police no one really has firearms. The mass public lost fireams ownership without a valid reason (hunting license, military career, sport shooting) years ago. Gun ownership and crime are both very low. Other than the Swiss, Americans are unique in the world on firearms ownership. You should judge another nation based on what is right for that nation.

I have lived all over the world, Europe, Australia and Asia and firearms ownership at our American level doesn't really exist.

Gun crime is common in 3rd world countries, but not in places like New Zealand.

In the mind of most New Zealanders, there is zero need for a firearm fore self protection. There are not bears, or tigers, or anything else roaming the countryside. The only problem animals are those humans lowlifes that exist in every society.

He is also one of the largest garment companies in New Zealand, and most Kiwis own clothing made by him. His fleece pull over and poley shorts are a classic Kiwi male uniform year round. Davy has NZ defense, search and rescue, and police garment contracts as well as being the primary uniform for construction workers, trades personnel and farmers. Everyone in New Zealand knows his product lines and wears it.

He is a loudmouth and well known by most Kiwis. So of course he was going to speak on the subject.

In my mind he had a decision to make.

1. Support the ban, knowing that the number of Kiwis that owned semi-autos was low.
2. Fight the ban and lose a huge part of his business, maybe even be snuffed out of his government contracts all together.

He is smart enough to know that New Zealand is going to shut down sem-auto firearms the same way Australia did. So why would he lose his entire company for standing in the way of a ban. A ban that most Kiwis approve of.

If you have not lived outside the USA or you live in a totally red state, you may not know that the numbers are against the polite society of firearms owners. Australians, Kiwis and Europeans allow hunters to manage wildlife, and own firearms to make it work.

We are lucky in the USA we don't live in that kind of society.

But let's be really honest, they don't deal with our murder rates. We are 89th in the world with 5.3 murders per 100,000 per year. New Zealand is 199th with .7 murders per 100,000. Yellowstone National Park averages more murders than New Zealand.

Davy is just doing what is right for New Zealand and his business model.

How many of you are wearing jeans produced by some anti-gun company? Like Wrangler or Levis?

I shop at Costco, and occasionally buy shoes for my kids at Dicks. Both of them are anti-gun.

I don't have time or the patience in my life to completely ignore a company based on their politics. If you do then that is awesome, more power to you. When I was younger and more idealistic it was a lot easier. Now I have a job and kids to feed.

What Davy did isn't ideal, but he wasn't going to sink with the ship. I would judge him that way.

World is pretty big, most of you have never even seen his gear in action. Or known someone that owns it.

I agree with what you are saying about different culture and different values the world us a big place. The reason his statements piss me and probably others off, is because a clothing company has absolutely no business pushing an agenda like gun control. They are a clothing company. Period. They make clothing. They don't make anything to do with firearms. Why are they attaching their brand to it?

For my whole life up until 2014 I had no idea what political views 90% of my friends and Co workers had. It wasn't a topic of conversation. It didn't matter.

Now I know very well what everyone's opinions are and I lost a lot of respect for a lot of people because they essentially are completely and totally insane with their ideologies that quite literally have no effect on their everyday lives.

This dude from Swazi didn't have to say one word about the AR ban but he did. And he dragged his company into a world it doesn't belong it in. I'm sure Swazi will be fine. But there's no need to try and explain to people why his actions are justified.

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[IdahoElk]

Some people love enslavement.

 

[Agross]

Only have two things Swazi, a camo hat that I like , and the hood, which I love. That thing is great.

 

[EdP]

I vote in every election and vote with my wallet whenever it is practical to do so. That said, I am mostly concerned about the personal freedoms our constitution is intended to protect. Other societies are welcome to their approaches and their consequences.

 

[displacedtexan]

This dude from Swazi didn't have to say one word about the AR ban but he did. And he dragged his company into a world it doesn't belong it in. I'm sure Swazi will be fine. But there's no need to try and explain to people why his actions are justified.

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Would you say this if he'd said the opposite and complained about the gun laws?

 

[willtim]

He can say what he likes and I can buy whatever I like. It won't be Swazi.

 

[Crowmangler]

I bet all those sheep in New Zealand wish they had a 2nd Amendment during the height of the china flu madness when they were being herded into the railcars & shipped off to the concentration camps. Nothing like having a tyrant's boot on your neck to make you rethink prior decisions huh?
To a tyrant the most important word in "Gun control" is the 2nd one. F this commie & his hoodies

 

[grfox92]

Would you say this if he'd said the opposite and complained about the gun laws?

The thought has never crossed my mind. I have never seen a non gun affiliated company come out in support of the second amendment. Ever.

I also feel there is a huge difference in fighting to and supporting taking away someone's rights then there is in supporting and maintaining rights you already have.

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[displacedtexan]

The thought has never crossed my mind. I have never seen a non gun affiliated company come out in support of the second amendment. Ever.

I also feel there is a huge difference in fighting to and supporting taking away someone's rights then there is in supporting and maintaining rights you already have.

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He lives in a country where they don't have the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution...

He's not "supporting taking away someone's rights", the US is just about the only developed country that views private ownership of firearms as a right.

 

[Mojave]

I agree with what you are saying about different culture and different values the world us a big place. The reason his statements piss me and probably others off, is because a clothing company has absolutely no business pushing an agenda like gun control. They are a clothing company. Period. They make clothing. They don't make anything to do with firearms. Why are they attaching their brand to it?

For my whole life up until 2014 I had no idea what political views 90% of my friends and Co workers had. It wasn't a topic of conversation. It didn't matter.

Now I know very well what everyone's opinions are and I lost a lot of respect for a lot of people because they essentially are completely and totally insane with their ideologies that quite literally have no effect on their everyday lives.

This dude from Swazi didn't have to say one word about the AR ban but he did. And he dragged his company into a world it doesn't belong it in. I'm sure Swazi will be fine. But there's no need to try and explain to people why his actions are justified.

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He actually owns a gun shop in Lavin.

And because he is a fairly public figure they asked his thoughts.

 

[grfox92]

He actually owns a gun shop in Lavin.

And because he is a fairly public figure they asked his thoughts.

I missed that part in the article about him owning a gun store. That certainly changes things a bit in this particular case. But doesn't change my opinion on the matter overall.

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[Mojave]

I missed that part in the article about him owning a gun store. That certainly changes things a bit in this particular case. But doesn't change my opinion on the matter overall.

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"As a gun dealer, Hughes is often talking about firearm laws with associates from all over the world."

Here is the exact words.

I share some thoughts with you. I don't like that he said it either.

I grew up in a hunting family and my father was a federal agent mostly in Wyoming and Montana. Guns were part of my life. When I joined the military at 18, I was shocked to find that not everyone had that experience. I was a police officer for a very short amount of time and a federal agent for a while before I got out of it, as I don't believe law enforcement is a career for me anymore. 20 years in the military and another 10 years since I retired I am even more convinced that those pockets of red state 1950'esque Americana are extremely rare.

Even here in New Mexico where guns are a big thing, there are a lot of people I interact with that would probably vote to take them away.

I don't want lunatics to have guns at all, I have been in situations even with other Veterans where I thought something bad was going to happen. People with mental illness should be restricted.

All I am saying is judge New Zealand by New Zealand not by America.

 

[Phaseolus]

I bet all those sheep in New Zealand wish they had a 2nd Amendment during the height of the china flu madness when they were being herded into the railcars & shipped off to the concentration camps. Nothing like having a tyrant's boot on your neck to make you rethink prior decisions huh?
To a tyrant the most important word in "Gun control" is the 2nd one. F this commie & his hoodies

You are confusing New Zealand with Australia…

 

[FLATHEAD]

So glad I live where I do.
My dog just came in the house because some of the
neighbors were dumping mags.
Swazi man would be terrified.
Makes me smile.

 

[displacedtexan]

"As a gun dealer, Hughes is often talking about firearm laws with associates from all over the world."

Here is the exact words.

I share some thoughts with you. I don't like that he said it either.

I grew up in a hunting family and my father was a federal agent mostly in Wyoming and Montana. Guns were part of my life. When I joined the military at 18, I was shocked to find that not everyone had that experience. I was a police officer for a very short amount of time and a federal agent for a while before I got out of it, as I don't believe law enforcement is a career for me anymore. 20 years in the military and another 10 years since I retired I am even more convinced that those pockets of red state 1950'esque Americana are extremely rare.

Even here in New Mexico where guns are a big thing, there are a lot of people I interact with that would probably vote to take them away.

I don't want lunatics to have guns at all, I have been in situations even with other Veterans where I thought something bad was going to happen. People with mental illness should be restricted.

All I am saying is judge New Zealand by New Zealand not by America.

I don't necessarily agree with your every statement... But the last sentence is the most accurate statement possible.

 

[Phaseolus]

It should be noted that you can have a bolt rifle with a suppressor without paper work in New Zealand. I visited a gun store there and the Kiwis were shocked we could have an AR but not a suppressor. “Are you all deaf?”

 

[FLATHEAD]

Wanna bet the NZ military has fully auto weapons?
How would Swazi man feel about that?

 

[gabenzeke]

I don't really have a dog in this fight. Don't own any of this stuff and never had intentions of buying any even though I know it is supposed to be good stuff. Aron Snyder has talked about it. But I see a lot of people suggesting that other cultures view firearms ownership differently. That may be so, but our constitution says very plainly that our rights were given to us by our creator. This is so frequently lost on people it surprises me. If you believe in the constitution our nation was founded upon, then you should also believe that our rights are inherent to the human condition. It just so happens our country is the only one that has gone to the trouble to ensure these rights are spelled out in our founding documents. It's hypocritical to say that you believe in this for our country, but not theirs. Unless you believe in separate creators for each nation.

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