Suppressor Testing??

[omicron1792]

Wow, what a bunch of whiners. If you don't like the testing methods then ignore the results. If you want a test ran a certain way then do the testing yourself. I'm sure Ryan has enough on his plate without all your "suggestions". I appreciate that he's taking the time to do it.

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Wouldn’t the same hold for you? Couldn’t you just ignore the posts or opinions you don’t like?

 

[omicron1792]

The reality is that the common meters, while better than nothing- do not have the sample rate to give consistent real numbers. Some cans meter significantly lower than they actually are, and some meter louder than they are. Systems that are precise enough to give real numbers with all can designs are very expensive- far above what almost all companies can afford. And for the most part, it actually doesn’t matter the small differences between good cans… as long as you aren’t totally ignorant (or deceitful) and claim impossible numbers.

Ok, so the meters available aren’t perfect- well, the way to deal with those limitations is to recognize when the numbers being given are too good to be true, and not state them. Do larger sample sizes, 10+ shots, compare with known cans sized by side, and test multiple days. Even still- it’s very easy to be 3-6 dB off actual. The problem is people and companies latch onto artificially low numbers (like a can metering less than dry fire, or metering less than the action cycling- let alone port pop, etc.).

Again, once numbers are comfortably in the 130’s- it really doesn’t matter, and people don’t notice the difference in real life. It’s only the internet dorks that argue about 1-2 dB’s, and especially from systems that can’t measure it consistently.

1. Those few db difference can make a real difference on a persons longterm hearing. You’re doing harm to people telling them it doesn’t make a difference.

2. Why don’t you do exactly what you say here, with multiple days and 10+ shots, side by side with airlock vs OG?

3. I totally agree a company doing non comparison testing throwing out dB ranges is silly and provides no meaningful data.

 

[Grundy53]

Wouldn’t the same hold for you? Couldn’t you just ignore the posts or opinions you don’t like?

Sure. But they are clogging up what could be a good thread.

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[omicron1792]

Sure. But they are clogging up what could be a good thread.

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Aren’t your replies to them doing the same thing?

 

[MuleyFever]

And for the most part, it actually doesn’t matter the small differences between good cans… as long as you aren’t totally ignorant (or deceitful) and claim impossible numbers.

Pretty much all I can think about reading all this is that in reality, none of it actually matters in any hunting situation.

 

[MuleyFever]

1. Those few db difference can make a real difference on a persons longterm hearing. You’re doing harm to people telling them it doesn’t make a difference.

If someone is shooting a suppressed rifle enough without hearing protection to cause hearing damage they don't understand suppressors and are doing themselves harm. A few db isn't their issue.

 

[omicron1792]

If someone is shooting a suppressed rifle enough without hearing protection to cause hearing damage they don't understand suppressors and are doing themselves harm. A few db isn't their issue.

That’s just not correct my friend.

Even with hearing protection a suppressor 3db louder will still be 3db louder.

 

[sndmn11]

Couldn’t agree more. Same guys all the time. I’m here for the testing and looking forward to the videos. I think these videos are going to be valuable and as close as we get to actually screwing on some of the top suppressors and testing them ourselves before buying.

I wish there was a place where these guys could go where they were isolated and the rest of us didn’t have to sift through the drivel.

Did you end up ordering a TK suppressor? That would be a good one to have next to the airlock and unknowns whenever a Denver day gets on the calendar. If you did, I think the only one that wouldn't be present is the yet to be released Airlock30, of what Rokslide talks about.

For you folks complaining about testing standards, and doing things a certain way, but never doing them yourself. I hope it's just ignorance on how hard it is to test things in a documented manner, FOR FREE. Just say thanks, absorb the information you gained for sitting behind your screen, and use or forget it as you see fit.

 

[Ucsdryder]

Did you end up ordering a TK suppressor? That would be a good one to have next to the airlock and unknowns whenever a Denver day gets on the calendar. If you did, I think the only one that wouldn't be present is the yet to be released Airlock30, of what Rokslide talks about.

For you folks complaining about testing standards, and doing things a certain way, but never doing them yourself. I hope it's just ignorance on how hard it is to test things in a documented manner, FOR FREE. Just say thanks, absorb the information you gained for sitting behind your screen, and use or forget it as you see fit.

No, not sure which suppressor to get yet. I’m going to wait for the next 2 airlocks 30 cals to be released and make a decision. Leaning toward something with a brand though for the 300nmi. I’d love to try before you buy, but not really an option in the suppressor world…. At some point it’s a leap of faith but probably can’t go wrong with either company.

I agree on the testing. The real answer is it’s better than no testing and I think side by side comparisons with someone that knows what he’s talking about is about as good as you can get without buying them and screwing them onto your own rifle.