Suppressor help

[Grillnugz]

As someone who doesn’t own a suppressor I am having trouble buying my first. I’d like to hear your recommendations or lessons learned. I’m not looking for one to rule them all, I’m just trying to avoid a boat anchor or a suppressor that won’t be used much. Most of my use will be on bolt guns (223-30 cal), but I would like some semi-auto AR flexibility.


From my research I’m not sure what’s most important:

1. Overall auditory suppression performance (suppressor ranking by pew science or similar)

2. Physical properties: weight, length, thickness, etc

3. Mounting system, modularity, overall ease of use

4. Caliber specific performance. Is there value in 223, 30 cal specific suppressors?

5. Materials, TI vs SS or inconel. Does material matter for normal target and long range use?

Thanks and let me know your thoughts

 

[allstajacket]

As a former silencer shop dealer (I managed the store,) and someone who personally owns cans, here are my thoughts

- first don’t be overwhelmed. The process seems crazy from an outsider perspective-but working through it has never been easier. For an easy process just visit your local silencer shop dealer that has a kiosk.

- internet gatekeeping is everywhere. You don’t need a $1,000+ silencer. My first can was an AAC SR-7. I bought it for target shooting and I got it for a crazy deal with my industry discount (Sub-$200.) back then there was a 12-18 month wait, so during this time I wasted countless hours reading up on how bad the can I bought was. It was consistently ranked last on peoples’ lists. It was heavy, and they claimed it didn’t suppress nearly as good as some silencers 2-3x its normal price. Once I got the can and used it for the first time, I was blown away, and I can honestly say it changed my life. Sure you can spend $800 more and save 5-10dB but overall it’s a fine silencer. For hunting it’s a different story as that thing is a boat anchor. I ended up getting the SilencerCo Harvester Evo. Right around $400-$500 +tax stamp, and the thing made my Mk V 300win mag extremely easy to shoot, bringing recoil down to .308 levels, and making the concussion non-existent. No ringing ears when shooting without earpro also. Again, everyone told me I needed a TBAC for $1000+, but this little ~$500 can is amazing.

- another opinion is to avoid multi-use suppressors. So many people came into the shop to buy a Hybrid 46 “because I can use it for any of my guns!”

What they didn’t realize is the time it takes to switch end caps, coupled with the fact that silencers get crazy hot, means you aren’t changing it in the middle of your range trip. At least not easily or often. I do use my Harvester evo for my .308, .300 win mag, and my 6.5 freedmoor, but I only need to change one end plate for 1/3 of the rifles. The other two share the same. Eventually I plan to have a can for each rifle, but for now this works.

- lastly, I aim for under 15oz for a hunting can, and prefer direct thread. For my 5.56 cans I don’t care much about weight, and I like QD flash hiders. Three prong flash hiders don’t need to be timed like brakes do, so they are quicker and easier to install. I use SilencerCo ASR mounts and like them.

Long story short, don’t be fooled into thinking you need the best can out there, more importantly look at how it’s mounted, weight, length, and warranty support.


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[littlebigtine]

Lots of great suppressors nowadays. Pick one in your price range and in the category you will most likely use it and I would be surprised if you weren’t happy with it. I prefer 5-8” titanium cans for their weight savings. They typically provide ample sound suppression for the range and never get left at home during hunting season. First can I bought was a tbac ultra 5 and I have stayed loyal because of the great customer service and their commitment to precision. That being said I was just at the range comparing a scythe ti to a magnus s rr and they are so close to one another in terms of suppression and recoil reduction I think the scythe is the obvious choice in a hunting scenario where weight matters. But the magnus looks cooler… about $500 cooler..lol

 

[Samson7x]

For hunting, although you don’t specifically mention that, I value weight and length. Luckily we have options now that strike a good balance of weight/length/suppression. For a first can, I’d go with an ultra 7 or scythe at this time.

Heavy cans suck to hike around with.

 

[BBob]

Lot's of cans are coming with an 1.375-24tpi (1 3/8" 24 threads per inch) mount. I'd probably lean towards one that does. The reason is that the mounts in that thread is made by lot's of OEM and aftermarket which will make the can near universal for almost any mounting system you may want now or in the future. SiCo Scythe, Dead Air Nomad's, DD Enticer's to name as a few popular cans with that thread system.

 

[hereinaz]

Get a 30 cal, unless you are only going to use it on 6mm or smaller.

A 7inch or so can, with today’s designs will all sound very close. Honestly, I don’t hear a lot of difference between my Ultra 7 and others.

Look at Thunderbeasts web page, they got together with a bunch of industry companies and came together to do testing together.

I would get direct thread for hunting.

If your budget only allows for aluminum, don’t worry unless you are going high volume or big caliber over 300 WM. Just follow the caliber restrictions.

TI suppressors are nice!

Get one from a reputable company.

People talk smack for lots of reasons on the internet, and because of the investment believe their suppressor is the best.

 

[Pickettpuncher]

Lots of great suppressors nowadays. Pick one in your price range and in the category you will most likely use it and I would be surprised if you weren’t happy with it. I prefer 5-8” titanium cans for their weight savings. They typically provide ample sound suppression for the range and never get left at home during hunting season. First can I bought was a tbac ultra 5 and I have stayed loyal because of the great customer service and their commitment to precision. That being said I was just at the range comparing a scythe ti to a magnus s rr and they are so close to one another in terms of suppression and recoil reduction I think the scythe is the obvious choice in a hunting scenario where weight matters. But the magnus looks cooler… about $500 cooler..lol

Where did you find a magnus for $500

 

[Xxtavixx]

Good comments so far. I will add some supporting thoughts to allstajacket

The idea of a modular can like the hybrid 46 is good if you understand you cannot easily move it between fire arms on the go. If you want a can that changes as you get different firearms, its great. Changing out the mounts isnt really something I like to do for precision rifles, its possible you change your point of impact slightly if its not threaded to the exact same spot each time.

For this reason, I have a silencer co harvester which is used for my rifles where I demand accuracy for hunting’s long shots. Its on a 16” 270 and a 7mag. Adore the can and anchor brake.

The hybrid 46 is set up for a 30/30 right now, but I have all the mounts and caps I would because I suspect a 35 whelen or some mid bore is in my future.

My last suggestion is to go direct thread for mounting.

 

[WRO]

You’ll end up with more than 1..

I run tbacs and am pretty partial to them, that being said they all work. I like the cb mounts and time get breaks that come with them.

Hard to beat an ultra 7


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[Kimber7man]

Where did you find a magnus for $500

I read it to say $500 more than a scythe ti…

 

[Pickettpuncher]

I read it to say $500 more than a scythe ti…

I’m glad you did, cause when I looked at the prices I was a bit lost lol.

 

[mtnbound]

I prefer the over-the-barrel-style cans from Griffin Armament or AB Suppressors. Go with a 30cal can, as it will give you the most versatility. I have direct thread, QD, and Hub mounts. They all work, so unless you have a specific need, just stay with the Direct thread. I don't get too worried about weight with the over-the-barrel style of can as they are more balanced IMO. If you are going to do a bunch of rapid-fire from your AR, then you might want to consider a full auto-rated or heavy-use-rated can. Find a local dealer that is all set up with fingerprinting and E-filing.

 

[Kurts86]

The best suppressor advice I’ve ever heard was to not get analysis paralysis and go order something today to get the ball rolling.

 

[Grillnugz]

I appreciate the advice. I’ve essentially been in Surefire and TBAC decision purgatory, given proprietary mounting systems (SF) and general unavailability (TBAC). This has led me to considering cheaper more modular systems.

Is there any downside to the “hub” adapter system?

What are the preferred QD mounting solutions? Reliability, ease of use, compatibility

 

[hereinaz]

Area 419 adapter system. Get the HUB system if you want different adapter options.

IMO, direct thread is very easy and is the most accurate. I have YHM Nitro 30 with QD mount for that auto rated steel can and ARs, but my precision rifles get direct thread TI.

 

[BBob]

Another adapter system to consider is the Area419 system. Mounts can be had for a wide variety of cans including my previously mentioned 1.375-24 thread. It uses the same barrel adapters they use for their own can and muzzle brakes. Two sizes are available, the smaller Hellfire and a larger Sidewinder. The Hellfire I believe has far more options. They are left hand thread and don't tend to loosen up when shooting which is something you need to watch for when shooting direct thread.

 

[tgivens999]

ultra 7 and don’t look back

 

[Lawnboi]

I appreciate the advice. I’ve essentially been in Surefire and TBAC decision purgatory, given proprietary mounting systems (SF) and general unavailability (TBAC). This has led me to considering cheaper more modular systems.

Is there any downside to the “hub” adapter system?

What are the preferred QD mounting solutions? Reliability, ease of use, compatibility

It’s just another set of threads you have to deal with.

I have no issues with Tbac cb, I’m barrels into the cb mounts without an issue. Downside is buying more brakes, but I have barrels with 1/2, 5/8 and 3/4 threads that I can use the same suppressor on without taking anything off the suppressor.

Tbac are around if you look. If you have a scheels near you I would start there. You just missed a wave of them on silencer shop. Their wait time direct is rough right now.

 

[Yukon Cornelius]

My advise is what it’s worth to you. I like 30 cal cans for my hunting guns. I own two. A harvester evo and a rugged radiant. I like them both. The rugged is modular and I ran it short on the Fieldcraft. Both are wonderful guns. I have 1/2 and 5/8 threaded rifles so I use one for the 5/8 threads (rugged) and the evo is for my 1/2 threaded rifles.

I bought a dead air primal for my 45/70 and my 458 socom.

All my 22s have a can so I don’t need to take them off. The 22 cans get used more than any of them and my advise would be to look for a bogo deal where you get a 22 can for free.

Have fun and just a heads up. They get contagious.
I waited 6 months for my first one just after Covid and my last three were 2 days, 4 days, and 4 days (with a weekend included).

 

[littlebigtine]

Where did you find a magnus for $500

Lol, it was 500 more than the scythe