I personally feel like SG is a tad bit tighter. Everything I buy from them fits tighter but not at all by a huge margin. For example, If you're in between and usually go either large or medium depending on how tight you want it, then definitely go large. But if you comfortably fit one size then stick to it and it won't be a problem. Again, just from my experience.
Their pants are way too long on me. I'm a 30 inseam and they use 32 for a few sizes if not all of them but they don't feel 32 they feel a tad longer. As far as waist size they feel just right if you go with their sizing chart. They are also extremely comfortable. I personally find kuiu pants size weird. One of their pants fit me and some don't. The guide pant and attack pant never fit me. Im a 33 or 34 and I couldn't fit in a kuiu 34 and the 36 was too big. Their pro brush pant fits me perfectly in a 34 though.
I've always had to go a size up in kuiu attack from my standard pants. I also suffer from short legs
guess ill avoid SG pants.
Or go get then tailored if you know a good tailor. I returned mine but I'm getting their 206 pant and getting them hemmedI've always had to go a size up in kuiu attack from my standard pants. I also suffer from short legs
I wear Medium in both brands. What I don’t like about the fit of the SG Cirque is the collar. It is really narrow. I don’t understand that design choice for an outerwear piece.
They’ll hem them before shipping for $20. I’m also 30-31 on pant lengths and have to do this.I've always had to go a size up in kuiu attack from my standard pants. I also suffer from short legs
Oh no way that's awesome! Didn't know they did that.
Thx for your comparison....I've considered this jacket but was curious how it compared to the Atom LT a well-regarded synthetic mid layer insulation piece.
I haven’t used a LPP but I do know the cirque fits much closer/tighter. Not sure about the insulation weights in comparison, but Apex is obviously different as well as the face fabric of the LPP, compared to the Cirque. The “which is warmer” question is really one I can’t speak to.
Although not super cheap, I'd get the kuiu Kenai hooded jacket. Only reason I sold mine is because I picked up both a Cirque and cirque lite slightly used at a great price and I didn't want all 3 jackets. The Kenai is warmer than the cirque lite but not as warm as the cirque. But I can definitely say the cirque isn't as comfortable as the light or the Kenai. With a thermal shirt under and you can hunt with the Kenai in really cold temperatures if active in my opinion but of course we all run at different body temps.
I have both jackets and really like them both. I personally like the Grumman better just due to how light it is. I wore a base layer Grumman and m7 as my outer layer in temps down to 10 degrees. When I was hiking a lot I had to open the pit zips to dump some heat. With that said I would never wear my Grumman as an outer layer due to being scared I would rip it. I would wear my cirque as an outer layer since the material is a lot thicker. I really don’t think you could go wrong with either one, just depends on how you’re going to use it.
Agree 100% with @Lukeduke13
So would you say the face fabric of the Cirque is a hair tougher than the Kenai? That's where I went away form the Kenai. I leaned against a tree once and it was all pilled up and just got the feeling it wouldn't last long at all. Went to Sitka Ambient and I find their face material to be just right.
Oh yeah for sure! That was the thing that sucked about the Kenai. It was very comfortable but not as tough as I wish it was. And then the cirque came along and I got rid of the Kenai
The Grumman is slightly warmer and far more packable. When it’s just really cold or you’re moving slow, the cirque is nice for an outer layer piece.
