Steve almighty the meat eater

[FLATHEAD]

In South Carolina the land owner would have shot those dogs. They don’t play with people claiming” The dog didn’t know it was private land.” At the end of the day it’s the land owners land, not public land to do whatever they want on.

Same here in AL., it's the responsibility of the owner of the dogs to keep them off private property. As it should be.
And yes, many have been shot and disposed of. I dont agree with that but it happens.

 

[Crowmangler]

Thank God I don't live in South Carolina. What kind of low life piece of shit shoots a dog for crossing a property line?

Carol Baskin

 

[bowhuntercoop]

Thank God I don't live in South Carolina. What kind of low life piece of shit shoots a dog for crossing a property line?

Plenty of land owners when dog owners knowing let their dogs loose on private land. If it borders national forest they might get a pass, but if coon and hog hunters run dogs on private land good chance that land owner is taking action.

Play stupid games, win stupid prices. If you wanna hunt private land ask permission. Just because you’re running dogs for hogs or coons or squirrels doesn’t give you the right to come onto private property because your dogs chased a hog or squirrel.

I wish they would ban dog hunting for deer and pigs 100 percent in the south and in general.

 

[ODB]

This "random farmer" that you are so concerned about has 436 thousand subscribers on YouTube. He's actively using that platform to take away a type of hunting because he doesn't like it.

What are you even talking about?

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And the polished nature and presentation of the video lets you know he's trying to reach a certain type of person.

 

[CJohnson]

Thank God I don't live in South Carolina. What kind of low life piece of shit shoots a dog for crossing a property line?

What happens is you have people who want to run the deer off your farm so they drop dogs on an adjacent tract and then say “wEll MuH dOgS cAnt ReAd SiGnZ”. After it happens once or ten times, you start to feel differently about shooting their dogs.

I usually just catch them and through them in a kennel with all the radar dishes on and make the owners come and get them.

I don’t think hound hunting should be curtailed in any way, but private property rights always trump someone’s right to access your land for any reason.

 

[Bluto]

I wish they would ban dog hunting for deer and pigs 100 percent in the south and in general.

This makes you 100% exactly the same as someone who says the same thing about you hunting.

 

[TreeStandAthlete]

What happens is you have people who want to run the deer off your farm so they drop dogs on an adjacent tract and then say “wEll MuH dOgS cAnt ReAd SiGnZ”. After it happens once or ten times, you start to feel differently about shooting their dogs.

I usually just catch them and through them in a kennel with all the radar dishes on and make the owners come and get them.

I don’t think hound hunting should be curtailed in any way, but private property rights always trump someone’s right to access your land for any reason.

I'd get the game Warden involved and probably do what you said, catch the dogs and kennel them. I wouldn't shoot the dog unless it was to save my own animals, it's not the dogs fault his owners an asshole. I'm also not a fan of escalating a situation that doesn't need to be escalated. Last thing I need is captain dumbass coming after me and going from annoying trespassing to a self defence shooting. Not the kind of day I want to have.

 

[rickjames80]

Thank God I don't live in South Carolina. What kind of low life piece of shit shoots a dog for crossing a property line?

To be fair, not all dogs are created equal. While I'm not advocating for people to shoot dogs. It is worth noting that some people could see a dog as a threat..

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/montana/articles/2021-12-14/man-killed-by-pack-of-dogs-on-northern-cheyenne-reservation

 

[CJohnson]

I'd get the game Warden involved and probably do what you said, catch the dogs and kennel them. I wouldn't shoot the dog unless it was to save my own animals, it's not the dogs fault his owners an asshole. I'm also not a fan of escalating a situation that doesn't need to be escalated. Last thing I need is captain dumbass coming after me and going from annoying trespassing to a self defence shooting. Not the kind of day I want to have.

I think this is a regional thing. Where I am most of the people who “run pigs” with dogs could also hook you up with some meth or used AC units. They aren’t the same crowd that runs lion out west. I agree with your sentiment about not escalating things, but it’s beyond frustrating for it to become a common thing. Property rights are important.

 

[Cowbell]

I really have lost a lot of respect for Steve over this. First, He uses his podcast to talk condescending about the farmer and it really makes all us hunters look bad. I don't want to portray that I am better than anybody. This is wrong and unprofessional regardless of the argument. Secondly, the farmer is ultimately protecting private property rights which we should all stand up for. I wonder how Steve would react if a neighbors dog chased a world class deer off his own property while he was hunting him. Steve - I'm sure you will read this thread - if you want to continue to be an advocate for hunting - do us all a favor and be better than this.

 

[TreeStandAthlete]

I think this is a regional thing. Where I am most of the people who “run pigs” with dogs could also hook you up with some meth or used AC units. They aren’t the same crowd that runs lion out west. I agree with your sentiment about not escalating things, but it’s beyond frustrating for it to become a common thing. Property rights are important.

Well shit, you should've mentioned we're talking meth heads. Here I'm thinking a nice upstanding member of society out on a Saturday to do a little hunting. Yeah that absolutely changes things. Now I'm glad I don't live in South Carolina for a whole other reason (not that Iowa has a shortage of meth heads)

 

[Azone]

DDD, and this all goes away.

 

[Bluto]

I really have lost a lot of respect for Steve over this. First, He uses his podcast to talk condescending about the farmer and it really makes all us hunters look bad. I don't want to portray that I am better than anybody. This is wrong and unprofessional regardless of the argument. Secondly, the farmer is ultimately protecting private property rights which we should all stand up for. I wonder how Steve would react if a neighbors dog chased a world class deer off his own property while he was hunting him. Steve - I'm sure you will read this thread - if you want to continue to be an advocate for hunting - do us all a favor and be better than this.

Banning hunting is property rights? That’s a big leap.

 

[Cowbell]

Banning hunting is property rights? That’s a big leap.

Maybe you should watch the guys video

 

[Superdoo]

This youtuber is a tool bag and he’s whining about meateater to get more clicks. Nothing more to say.

 

[johnsd16]

Bad move Steve. Even the tone he uses to say “duck farmer” is very condescending. Sorry we can’t all be fancy hunting personalities, but to be in that kind of position of power and influence and essentially talk down on the guy and come off like a bully is pretty crappy. IMO SR also got out social media’d by the guy which is pretty funny.

I grew up working in a sporting goods store in WI where hound hunting was big and it was a lot of mixed public and small/large private. The example that others are using about a huge buck you are patterning and hope to kill getting run out of its core area never to be seen again by a pack of hounds is a good example. It brings it home for hunters. Western WI had a rich hound hunting culture and there were hardcore deer guys and it got messy. I’m a huge advocate for private property rights, but also for public access to public land. If I own and pay taxes on my property there is no excuse for negative impacts to my land from others being there without permission. It doesn’t matter if it is running off a buck or bull, injuring or killing livestock/pet, damaging fence or outbuildings, whatever. It is not anyone else’s right to make trouble or work for me on my property. Accidents happen but hound guys know darn well that their dogs might chase a bear or Coon onto private when they drop the dogs, but they do it anyway in the hope they get their quarry and it works out.

For those saying Steve has done more for hunters, advocacy, whatever so he should get a pass for acting like he did. In my opinion there is no one in our society that deserves more respect than combat veterans, for what they do, the sacrifices they make, etc. If a CV grabbed your wife’s ass or disrespected your daughter in a bad way would you give them a pass, probably not. Doing great things is not a free pass to act like as big of an douche as you want. I feel like he thought he could act however he wanted in this situation and hunters would keep his back.

I’m all for retaining as many hunting rights as possible and fighting United against antis but as a fair chase hunter who enjoys many different types of hunting I internally choose not to hitch my wagon to certain groups like true canned high fence hunting and trespassers whether they are chasing their dogs or not.

 

[Scoot]

I wish they would ban dog hunting for deer and pigs 100 percent in the south and in gegeneral.

i agree and i also think people should only be allowed to hunt with a recurve, cuz that's how I do it! Plus everyone should be required to shoot left handed too.

Why can't hunters understand they need to stand together, rather than apart. Just because you don't hunt with dogs doesn't mean it's bad. We'll all lose every kind of hunting-- your kind and all kinds- if we can't figure this out.

The YouTuber is a tool. Steve didn't handle this well- he's generally smart and well spoken, but his tone and approach came across very poorly in some of this.

 

[NVVAHunt]

I think it def could have been handled better by the Meateater crew but the farmer is kind of a pompous ass. He also gets a few things factually wrong. He states that there is no right to hunt and fish in Vermont and that it is a privilege. That’s false. Per the Congressional Sportsman’s Foundation

-Vermont was the first state to adopt a constitutional provision protecting the rights of its citizens to hunt, trap and fish. The right has been protected in Vermont since 1777

Apparently he doesn’t care about other peoples rights, just his.


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[KurtR]

I’m confused I thought everyone hunted for the meat and the experience now. I didn’t think horns mattered any more. Maybe it’s like Matt rinella said that duck farmer should have stayed where he was and not use social media and add to the duck farm over crowding.

Wonder if the duck farmer will sell some ducks for dog training not hounds of course.

 

[switchback7]

i think the OP just wanted to get in on the Rinella bashing - he was feeling left out...