rvalleyp
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What would you choose for bear defense in grizzly country?
^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^ if limited to shotguns. Save the buckshot for your move to Chicago.Brenneke slugs.
I have zero experience in grizzly country, but my experience with TSS “buckshot” loads using BB size shot has convinced me that there is no better load for stopping an animal at close range. I can get 49 pellets in a 20 gauge hull. Any one of those will pass all the way through both femurs and the pelvis, or through both shoulder blades and spine, on a full grown pig. A semi auto 12 gauge loaded with BB, T, or #4 buck size TSS in a 3” shell would absolutely blanket a charging bear in pellets
It’s not primarily the pattern size, but the resulting wound once the shot enters tissue that I’m interested in.I tested the pattern on buckshot out of a mossing Shockwave (super short barrel). The buckshot at 10yds wasn't much bigger of a pattern than the slug. So it seems the benefit of buckshot just isn't there.
Breneke all the way.
Why with buckshot shoot him in the face (vs slug)?If you choose buckshot.....you better shoot him in the face. A big bear's head is half the size of one of those pigs.
Tungsten Super Shot, it’s the ultra-high density (and ultra high price) non-toxic shot that allows guys to shoot #10 shot for turkeys or goose hunt with #7s and kill at long range. The navy has also tested a canister load for their 5” guns using the BB size shot, it’ll kill kamikaze boats is you get it going fast enough.Bear skulls are pretty tough and not so easy to penetrate to get to the brain in my experience
What is TSS? I’m not familiar with that load.
I know over on Pistol-Forum.com, the most desirable load is Flight Control #1 shot (15 pellets I think).
Simple. It's either dead or lost the two senses that will get me killed, sight and smell.Why with buckshot shoot him in the face (vs slug)?
Seems to me if targeting the head, then I’m trying to get through the skull and hit the brain…in which case a slug would probably be better.