Sleeping pads

lak2004

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For you Klymit Insulated guys, are you using them with a quilt or bag? I almost bought one until I realized those baffles have no insulation, and the design relies on insulation from a sleeping bag to fill those voids.

Pads like the X Therm or Nemo Tensor Field have a flat surface and so the whole thing is insulated.
I have one I use with a something 15* bag, absolutely hate it. Going to look into the other options. I've used it in September on high country deer and elk hunts and I end up freezing my butt off. A better bag will also help, but not a fan of the klymit pads.

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I have one I use with a something 15* bag, absolutely hate it. Going to look into the other options. I've used it in September on high country deer and elk hunts and I end up freezing my butt off. A better bag will also help, but not a fan of the klymit pads.

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I went with the xtherm.
 

CO-AJ

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EXPED Synmat UL-W I think. They have a large number of offerings, but I would go for a R Value of 5 or greater.
 

swanny

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I prefer ExPed. October and November can present a wide range of temperature ranges which can be a challenge. I'd prefer to be too warm than too cold so that factors into my choice of a pad.

I find the SynMat XP is a good all-around pad. When it gets really cold, I switch to the DownMat XP. My experience is having a pad more warm than cool helps to keep my back from tightening up during the night and feels better when I awaken.

When choosing an R-value, remember that you need an R-value of 5.0 to remain thermoneutral (don't lose body temperature) at 32F while sleeping.

Great choice in mats! Just to add a little extra, for anyone that is looking at their EN rating on their sleeping bag, the EN test is done with a mat that has a 4.8 r-value. The SynMat XP 7 has a 4.8 r-value (y)
 

swanny

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EXPED Synmat UL-W I think. They have a large number of offerings, but I would go for a R Value of 5 or greater.

I'm guessing you are using the SynMat UL Winter, should be red and 9cm (~3.5" thick)
 

CO-AJ

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I'm guessing you are using the SynMat UL Winter, should be red and 9cm (~3.5" thick)
Yes. Compresses in dia to about the size of a Nalgene, but is a bit taller. I like that it is quiet when laying on it and as a side sleeper I find that my hips dont touch the ground. Takes between 2-3 snozzle bags of air to inflate.
 
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