sleep + recovery supplement?

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I don't sleep well in the woods. More mental than physical I think, not uncomfortable, I just don't sleep well. In the past I have taken tylenol pm to sleep through the night on hunts but that I'd imagine isn't very healthy to keep doing again and again. I don't do well with melatonin either, gives me crazy vivid dreams that I am not a fan of. Any suggestions for alternatives? Maybe something that aids in recovery like cbd type supps?
 

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I don’t like melatonin either. Valerian works better for me. Trazodone is pretty harmless if you’re looking at prescription drugs.
 

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A stiff dose of magnesium supplements generally helps me sleep. Melatonin can be a wild ride for me as well, so I try to avoid regular use.
 

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I was gonna suggest G-Spring by Magnum cause I’ve been using it for a bit and will swear by it, gets me to sleep quick, muscle recovery is great, and more energy upon waking, but I does have melatonin in it. CBD sounds like what you would be after.
 
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zanax will get you to sleep.....

Maybe you need to camp out more in your backcountry shelter? If all you use it for is a few days a year your probably just not used to it....ymmv.
 

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I take the 3 things the Andrew Huberman recommends. Magnesium Threonate, Apigenin, and L-Theanine. I order them off amazon. The brand I get is Double Woods.

I have been a poor sleeper for all of my adult life. I just wake up a lot and toss and turn. I'm talking like 12 times a night or more. That's a lot of sleep interruption. Now I might remember waking up one time per night. It isn't really stuff to make you fall asleep though. Melatonin will help with that and is very short acting. It has a very short half-life.

I have taken this stuff for about 4 months now. This year will be my first year to see if they improve how i sleep on the mountain.
 

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“Midnight Drops” are an effective CBD based product.

Like others said, magnesium can help. Melatonin, though you need to experiment with the dosage. Some people take 1 mg, some take 10. If you need it to fall asleep, take it a couple of hours before bed, to stay asleep, take it when you go to bed. Valerian root, chamomile tea…. A combination of several. Experiment with what works for you and sleep in your tent as often as possible so that you’re comfortable as in your own bed.
 

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I run 1st phorm night t every night I can get to bed before 1 am. I only take 1 of the recommended 2 as I get up at 506. It’s changed my life!
 
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Melatonin works well for me. It does give me some pretty wild dreams but I don’t mind that part haha
 

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I’m the complete opposite. Can’t sleep at home. In the woods I’m out instantly and sleep like a baby. Melatonin works (sometimes) but I’m super groggy the next day.

It honestly might be performance anxiety/stress related. That’s what I think mine is related to at home w/ work. Do you have the same issues if you’re just camping?
 
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Jocko Willinks sleep aid is great. But make sure you give yourself enough time to sleep. It's super strong so one pill of the three recommended goes a long ways.
 
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It honestly might be performance anxiety/stress related. That’s what I think mine is related to at home w/ work. Do you have the same issues if you’re just camping?
I think that;s a big part of it. At least recently. I started thinking about it because we went camping a month ago and i slept pretty poorly, and kind of remembered that without advil pm I just don't sleep well outside. A lot has gone on though the past month and my sleep is getting worse so it;s not just the woods.. I'm waking up more often, and 3 times in the past 2 weeks I've woken up at 2 and couldn't go back to sleep. I can knock out pretty consistently around 9p it's just I'm waking up more than I ever have before. Not nightmares or having to pee, just waking up for no reason.

I live on Maui and the fires was pretty traumatizing so I think that's been an issue. My family had to evacuate twice because one of the other fires got pretty close to our place. I also would surf in lahaina 2 -3 times a week used to live off front st and all that's toast now. So a lot of memories of a place reduced to rubble.
I'm also a special ed teacher which doesn't help stresswise. We got a bunch of displaced kids and I got some tough kids on my caseload so that doesn;t help. I have reached out to some mental help resources so I do have that going but i think I'm going to do some more research and try some of these suggestions for better sleep. I would like to try something a little more natural and less big pharma if can.
 
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At one time, I had a sleep "supplement." No idea what was in it, the name/flavor was "sleepy time punch." Shit was crazy, you had better be ready for sleep because it was coming fast with wildly vivid dreams.

My suggestion would be to get a cot, if you are not using one. Being maximally comfortable has been big for me in the quality of my camping sleep.
 
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