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Chad.frank

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Guys I can’t keep up with all of this on the multiple threads. You’re all adults and will/can form your own opinion. As I said earlier, I can honestly say you don’t have to doubt Sitka’s loyalty to the people who built the company, to the outdoors, or the outdoor industry. You will consistently see them at the forefront of conservation efforts. I don’t know what will happen, or be said, only time will tell. I have deer to chase, presents to wrap, kids to spend time with, and hunts to plan. Show season starts in January and I’ll be at a LOT of shows. Stop in and chat.

I’m going to post a post from a friend of mine, also another Sitka ambassador. He sums up the majority really well.

I’ll leave you with one last thought as well. Don’t be a sheep. If this really bothers you, do some research. Look for the positives out there. Don’t believe me, just because I tell you Sitka has done a bunch of amazing things for the hunting world. Find out for yourself. Look it up. Just because some jack wagon spews off a bunch of other bullshit, doesn’t mean the world is ending. Do some research find out the facts. . Life is full of sheep, don’t let them pull the wool over your eyes.

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Hunt4lyf

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Les, part of the problem is that Sitka has come out and said exactly nothing about what Charles said in his video. It's been almost 48 hours since it was posted and it's still crickets from them, they can put together a form letter stating their support for hunters and the 2A, they can post pictures of stars on their FB page but they can't publicly post a 4 sentence paragraph artuiculating their stance on on those things Charles is wishing to regulate and whether or not they have separated ways with him.
 

CorbLand

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Les, part of the problem is that Sitka has come out and said exactly nothing about what Charles said in his video. It's been almost 48 hours since it was posted and it's still crickets from them, they can put together a form letter stating their support for hunters and the 2A, they can post pictures of stars on their FB page but they can't publicly post a 4 sentence paragraph artuiculating their stance on on those things Charles is wishing to regulate and whether or not they have separated ways with him.

I agree that if Sitka is going to answer for this, it needs to come soon. I am hopeful today will be the day.

You have to remember that situations like this require steps, steps that have to be followed to protect themselves from lawsuits. Those that are calling for Sitka to answer immediately are also the same people that are saying what they have answered they dont believe. So they can take the hit for a couple days, formulate a good, thoughtful response or they can make a knee jerk reaction that everyone still complains about. Lose lose.

I am calling it now, no matter what Sitka says, a good amount of people will still think its a disguise for what Sitkas "true agenda" is.
 

Hunt4lyf

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I agree that if Sitka is going to answer for this, it needs to come soon. I am hopeful today will be the day.

You have to remember that situations like this require steps, steps that have to be followed to protect themselves from lawsuits. Those that are calling for Sitka to answer immediately are also the same people that are saying what they have answered they dont believe. So they can take the hit for a couple days, formulate a good, thoughtful response or they can make a knee jerk reaction that everyone still complains about. Lose lose.

I am calling it now, no matter what Sitka says, a good amount of people will still think its a disguise for what Sitkas "true agenda" is.

I agree with most of what you said here and I will say that my clothing purchases going forth will be based on what they say or don't say about this situation. I hope they choose to support the people that support them rather than come out with some limp noodle answer to appease the masses.
 

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I agree that if Sitka is going to answer for this, it needs to come soon. I am hopeful today will be the day.

You have to remember that situations like this require steps, steps that have to be followed to protect themselves from lawsuits. Those that are calling for Sitka to answer immediately are also the same people that are saying what they have answered they dont believe. So they can take the hit for a couple days, formulate a good, thoughtful response or they can make a knee jerk reaction that everyone still complains about. Lose lose.

I am calling it now, no matter what Sitka says, a good amount of people will still think its a disguise for what Sitkas "true agenda" is.

I am one of the people that didn't like the email response I got from Sitka simply because, by all indications looking at this guys resume, he is an employee of Sitka, not an independant contractor...that's how HE portrays himself on his SM feeds (including LinkedIn), so that is certainly not on Sitka.

At this point I'm very optimistic that Sitka is going to address and clarify this issue...hopefully today. It's clear to me that they have already taken action by speaking with this individual and requesting he remove any mentions of Sitka from his bio in Instagram, but of course that's just me speculating. I do agree with both you and Les that Sitka has earned the benefit of the doubt based on their commitment and dedication to the outdoors and sportsmen.
 

Glory

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Sitka is a business, who has made a lot of money off of gun owning hunters. Yes they have supported our causes, but in the interest of building their brand. Lets see if they step up.
 
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Snowflake:
:a person perceived by others to have an inflated sense of uniqueness or an unwarranted sense of entitlement, or to be over-emotional, easily offended, and unable to deal with opposing opinions.

Take a deep breath, nobody is going to be taking your guns away.

By making this such a big deal, you're only promoting the issue, all publicity is good publicity for this guy. If he gets fired, he's a martyr!

Just get on with your day and if you don't want to buy Sitka again, then do that, you be you dude.
 
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iahunter08

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How do you know he is still employed? The way i understood it he was an independent contractor for them, i assume aside from not hiring him for future consulting there is not much they can do to him.
 
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How is this sitkas issue? People are not allowed to say what they want on there own anymore? I watched the vid, where does it state sitka is doing this?
 

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Snowflake:
:a person perceived by others to have an inflated sense of uniqueness or an unwarranted sense of entitlement, or to be over-emotional, easily offended, and unable to deal with opposing opinions.

Take a deep breath, nobody is going to be taking your guns away.

By making this such a big deal, you're only promoting the issue, all publicity is good publicity for this guy. If he gets fired, he's a martyr!

Just get on with your day and if you don't want to buy Sitka again, then do that, you be you dude.

Troll:
An Internet troll is a member of an online social community who deliberately tries to disrupt, attack, offend or generally cause trouble within the community by posting certain comments, photos, videos, GIFs or some other form of online content.

Just sayin'.
 

Hunt4lyf

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How do you know he is still employed? The way i understood it he was an independent contractor for them, i assume aside from not hiring him for future consulting there is not much they can do to him.

Because he is still listing his affiliation with Sitka on his LinkedIn page, he only took it off his Instagram because of the storm that came his way. Sitka still has not disavowed this guy, their silence is deafening.
 

Rthur

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Snowflake:
:a person perceived by others to have an inflated sense of uniqueness or an unwarranted sense of entitlement, or to be over-emotional, easily offended, and unable to deal with opposing opinions.

Take a deep breath, nobody is going to be taking your guns away.

By making this such a big deal, you're only promoting the issue, all publicity is good publicity for this guy. If he gets fired, he's a martyr!

Just get on with your day and if you don't want to buy Sitka again, then do that, you be you dude.

It would seem to be obvious that our "silent majority" has been taking the high road and being left behind in the court of public opinion.
While I'd just as soon go about my daily business the extent of our opponents success can be seen in recent red flag laws.
Due process is being skirted as a result.
We become complacent and afraid to speak up for our "rights" while the other team is preaching on every street corner available.
We'll either come together as a unified force or be cast aside under the ever power seeking government.

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Word is he took it down on Instagram because that's where most of the heat was coming from. Like posted above his linkedin says he is still working for Sitka. Like I also mentioned Sitka has not made a statement and has not publicly said they have cut ties with this clown
 

Diesel

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Social media can rocket your business into the stratosphere....like it has with Sitka....OR it can kill you.

Its lightning fast....companies utilizing it need to have lightning fast responses.....if not...then it shows that the weak leadership does not have clearly defined business plan and mission statement.

Is this a planned strategy trying to segue into the main stream?

Are they softening on the base of hard core hunters they built their business on?

Was this one bad apple?

A good test of their management.....the clock is ticking.

Agree with your post. Another days has passed without a statement, not smart.

If you build your business on selling hunting gear, you better make it crystal clear where you stand on hunting issues and your employees need to reflect those positions.

Regardless of how this person got his position with Sitka, he is and will cost Sitka sales for every hour that goes by unaddressed.

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While I do not own any Sitka gear at this time, I have been seriously looking at their gear. How Sitka handles this issue will effect my decisions going foreword.
 

Hunt4lyf

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Agree with your post. Another days has passed without a statement, not smart.

If you build your business on selling hunting gear, you better make it crystal clear where you stand on hunting issues and your employees need to reflect those positions.

Regardless of how this person got his position with Sitka, he is and will cost Sitka sales for every hour that goes by unaddressed.

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While I do not own any Sitka gear at this time, I have been seriously looking at their gear. How Sitka handles this issue will effect my decisions going foreword.

I spoke with Sitka, my comments are in the "Weasel" thread.
 
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