Silencerco Scythe TI review

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In addition to being modular its stainless rather than Ti:

"We're launching a new member of the Scythe-Ti family called the Scythe STM. It's a stainless modular version of our Scythe. So, in the short configuration, it's a little bit shorter than the Ti and in the long configuration, it's a couple of baffles longer. Full-auto rated, no barrel restrictions. It's a pretty awesome can."

So a stainless Banish 30? We know how much people like that modularity, cough cough @thinhorn_AK
 

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If it’s still only 8oz (even short only) I’m sold.

Something tells me will be closer to omega weights of 11/14oz (my guess)
Add about 50% weight for steel one if my math is right. Probably more for modular one that has a set of threads versus everything being welded together.
 

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Add about 50% weight for steel one if my math is right. Probably more for modular one that has a set of threads versus everything being welded together.
If the baffle count and diameter are the same, you are right. I know AB makes the stainless versions one less baffle and thus weight is closer to 25% more, not 50. Also a big reduction in price.
 
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My guess would be they use the stainless version hype as cover to quietly put some restrictions on the ti.
I don't understand why SiCo hasn't updated the Scythe Ti specs and manual with restrictions after doing multiple repairs on failed welds. Maybe these anecdotal seperations are just a blip on the radar for them compared to sales volume.

They say the Scythe Ti is for bolt and semi, not rated for full auto. They say no barrel length restrictions.

But why don't they do what other suppressor manufacturers have done and publish a firing schedule (XX shots before allowing the suppressor to cool) or a temperature limit (keep under 800 degrees) to help their customers avoid weakening their cans and having a weld let go when they use it on a short barreled magnum?

My guess is that the amount of shooting they would have to do to replicate these failures and identify reasonable limitations is percieved as cost and time prohibitive. But it's exactly what I'd want a suppressor manufacturer to invest in up front and not use their customers as product testers.

Another possibility is that they have identified something internally with their orbital welding process, or their training and process adherance, or weld inspection (penetrant or x-ray) or something else that they have changed in the background that they think has resolved this issue without making any statements or recalls.
 

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I don't understand why SiCo hasn't updated the Scythe Ti specs and manual with restrictions after doing multiple repairs on failed welds. Maybe these anecdotal seperations are just a blip on the radar for them compared to sales volume.

They say the Scythe Ti is for bolt and semi, not rated for full auto. They say no barrel length restrictions.

But why don't they do what other suppressor manufacturers have done and publish a firing schedule (XX shots before allowing the suppressor to cool) or a temperature limit (keep under 800 degrees) to help their customers avoid weakening their cans and having a weld let go when they use it on a short barreled magnum?

My guess is that the amount of shooting they would have to do to replicate these failures and identify reasonable limitations is percieved as cost and time prohibitive. But it's exactly what I'd want a suppressor manufacturer to invest in up front and not use their customers as product testers.

Another possibility is that they have identified something internally with their orbital welding process, or their training and process adherance, or weld inspection (penetrant or x-ray) or something else that they have changed in the background that they think has resolved this issue without making any statements or recalls.
They actually doubled down the other way and two weeks ago sent an article out to anyone subscribed explaining how great the suppressor is with no limits. I laughed a bit.
 

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They actually doubled down the other way and two weeks ago sent an article out to anyone subscribed explaining how great the suppressor is with no limits. I laughed a bit.
Just leave it off that list and quietly ease people into the idea that it’s not quite indestructible.
 

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I just pulled my Hansohn ti flat cap off my scythe and I needed to put the 3 prong tool in a vise and use a strap wrench to get it off. When putting an anchor brake back on i noted a possible negative to using the Hansohn cap rather than a sico one. The Hansohn cap does not thread in as deep as the sico anchor brakes and thus carbon can build up in that area and obstruct the anchor brake getting threaded all the way on.

I'll upload some pics for reference. You can see a little ring where the anchor brake made contact with the carbon when screwing it back in. I suppose i should clean the carbon out of this thing some day too, its 1.3 ounces heavier than when new.

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I just pulled my Hansohn ti flat cap off my scythe and I needed to put the 3 prong tool in a vise and use a strap wrench to get it off. When putting an anchor brake back on i noted a possible negative to using the Hansohn cap rather than a sico one. The Hansohn cap does not thread in as deep as the sico anchor brakes and thus carbon can build up in that area and obstruct the anchor brake getting threaded all the way on.

I'll upload some pics for reference. You can see a little ring where the anchor brake made contact with the carbon when screwing it back in. I suppose i should clean the carbon out of this thing some day too, its 1.3 ounces heavier than when new.

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This is also true with the sico flat caps. I have the same issue with my hybrid 46 when I switch between my 46 cal flat cap and the 30 cal anchor brake. Both are OEM caps.
 

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I just pulled my Hansohn ti flat cap off my scythe and I needed to put the 3 prong tool in a vise and use a strap wrench to get it off. When putting an anchor brake back on i noted a possible negative to using the Hansohn cap rather than a sico one. The Hansohn cap does not thread in as deep as the sico anchor brakes and thus carbon can build up in that area and obstruct the anchor brake getting threaded all the way on.

I'll upload some pics for reference. You can see a little ring where the anchor brake made contact with the carbon when screwing it back in. I suppose i should clean the carbon out of this thing some day too, its 1.3 ounces heavier than when new.
Maybe add a little antisieze, and check it once in a while for being loose? I'm looking for a 5.56 hanson cap if you or anyone want to sell yours.
 

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This is also true with the sico flat caps. I have the same issue with my hybrid 46 when I switch between my 46 cal flat cap and the 30 cal anchor brake. Both are OEM caps.
Good intel, i assumed theyd be the same threads as the anchor brake caps but have never had or seen one.
 

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Just checked and might have misremembered.

Hansohn on left, all sico on right. The scythe brake definitely has longer threads than the other 3.

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Is your flush silencerco brand cap steel or titanium? If it’s steel then I wonder if the titanium threads will be longer like the brake cap. I ordered a Scythe a week and a half ago and am looking into which flush cap to get. I was leaning toward the Hansohn titanium but now I don’t know. Or is it worth paying $34 more for the silencerco cap?
 

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Is your flush silencerco brand cap steel or titanium? If it’s steel then I wonder if the titanium threads will be longer like the brake cap. I ordered a Scythe a week and a half ago and am looking into which flush cap to get. I was leaning toward the Hansohn titanium but now I don’t know. Or is it worth paying $34 more for the silencerco cap?
The Hansohn in the pic is titanium, the sico one is the steel 46 cal one that came with the hybrid 46.

The Hansohn is nice and if you’re not going to be switching between caps often then I don’t see an issue with it gunking up the threads with carbon. I don’t switch them on the scythe at all, I just leave the factory brake on there. The only time I have an issue is when I switch them around on my hybrid
 

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As a potential new can owner that was really interested in the Scythe Ti upon release, I've done my best to keep up with the failure reports and other info as it comes out. I want a can on my rifle before I head out for my 2025 hunts.

That said, to the Scythe owners, would you have any reservations about buying a Scythe Ti today for hunting and range use on a 16" .308? Is there anything else you'd be looking at or considering as an alternative? I was looking hard at a Dead Air Nomad Ti before their big customer service debacle and the release of the Scythe. I know SHOT is happening as I type this so maybe something new will show up over the next few days too.
 
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As a potential new can owner that was really interested in the Scythe Ti upon release, I've done my best to keep up with the failure reports and other info as it comes out. I want a can on my rifle before I head out for my 2025 hunts.

That said, to the Scythe owners, would you have any reservations about buying a Scythe Ti today for hunting and range use on a 16" .308? Is there anything else you'd be looking at or considering as an alternative? I was looking hard at a Dead Air Nomad Ti before their big customer service debacle and the release of the Scythe. I know SHOT is happening as I type this so maybe something new will show up over the next few days too.
I would not have any hesitation. Silencerco CS is reportedly fantastic and the scythe really is the best option for a lightweight hunting can that I'm aware of, if you're prioritizing length, weight, and suppression.

For my next can, I was thinking either scythe, or the nomad xc ti, or the DD wolf hunter. Both reportedly are slightly quieter than the scythe to those who I've seen report on it. Between the two, I may go DD since Nomad's CS is supposedly garbage.
 

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CS was great, just received my repaired scythe-ti back yesterday. Not sure what they did for the repair and will shoot it this weekend. Less than 3 days between when they received it and I got a shipping notification.
 
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