Should Western Hunting Expo take a stand for Public Lands?

[tipsntails7]

It may be "fallacy" ratings, but it's still more factual than saying "people have to hunt to survive in Utah because most of them are too poor to survive". We're still waiting on his facts to back up his bias.

I dont agree with his assertion either. But a lot of those articles have to do with growth, or potential growth, not actual strength.
Very very few people have to rely on subsistence hunting in order to not die.

I make plenty of money but still utilize public land. I think using subsistence hunting as a way to protect public lands is a flawed one that will hurt out cause more then help it, once you pull out the 3k spotter, the 400 dollar boots, 1k rifle it's tuff to make that a sticking point.
I'm sure there are guys who utilize hunting as a way to offset food costs, but I assume most western hunters do not. Now if I'm shooting 30 whitetail doe's a year that may be different.

 

[mtnrunner260]

Tips,
I must have met you on the Willard survey.
5 points is a tough spot. There's nothing worth 5 points in my opinion, just a no mans land. But some of the application fees you generate do go towards good causes and eventually you will be able to draw a lower tier limited entry tag. No the OIL tags may just never happen without luck.

 

[tipsntails7]

Tips,
I must have met you on the Willard survey.
5 points is a tough spot. There's nothing worth 5 points in my opinion, just a no mans land. But some of the application fees you generate do go towards good causes and eventually you will be able to draw a lower tier limited entry tag. No the OIL tags may just never happen without luck.

It was last years, not this years unfortunately. But I was wearing a blue Detroit hat, fusion Chama, brown pants and an SG solo bag. I hope to go again next year, but it's quite a trip from Northern California but it's a real blast.


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[sneaky]

I dont agree with his assertion either. But a lot of those articles have to do with growth, or potential growth, not actual strength.
Very very few people have to rely on subsistence hunting in order to not die.

I make plenty of money but still utilize public land. I think using subsistence hunting as a way to protect public lands is a flawed one that will hurt out cause more then help it, once you pull out the 3k spotter, the 400 dollar boots, 1k rifle it's tuff to make that a sticking point.
I'm sure there are guys who utilize hunting as a way to offset food costs, but I assume most western hunters do not. Now if I'm shooting 30 whitetail doe's a year that may be different.

Ha. I'm originally from Tennessee, and we can shoot 3 does a day from end of September til first week of January. I was pretty shocked when I moved out here and realized you get one deer tag and you have to apply for it.

 

[1signguy]

As I said in my earlier posts- these are just my observations and experience from having spent a few weeks a year in Utah for the last several years. It was not meant to be adversarial in any way. However, per capita incomes in Utah are very low.

Utah is no doubt a wonderful place to live and operate a business- it made the short list of states we took a very hard look at moving some of our operations. Including relocating our children and primary residence. In the end the state was not as competitive as others in their relocation offering.

As I said, I understand your reticence with regards to the public land. Hopefully a solution can be found that best rewards all interested parties and state members. I certainly love the state and love all of the public land and would hate to see it all gone- which I don't think will ever happen.

As a side note- a primary owner of Weyerhaeuser is a good neighbor. I better ask for a key! LOL

 

[mtnrunner260]

It was last years, not this years unfortunately. But I was wearing a blue Detroit hat, fusion Chama, brown pants and an SG solo bag. I hope to go again next year, but it's quite a trip from Northern California but it's a real blast.


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I've done both years. I'm sure we talked but I'm terrible with people. Now remember the details of a buck or bull is another story.
It's impressive how far folks travel to help out with it and hopefully you'll be able to again.
Thanks