Shoot2Hunt University

What are folks running for DBM on the Rokstocks? Any experience with Atlasworks or Lumely?
Atlasworx CTR-AICS requires a lot of lever filing but does work well once tuned. High Desert works well, requires shims sometimes unless you get the large trigger cutout (Midas version). Have heard good things about Lumley. Less so about MT.

-J
 
I assume you ordered when it showed in stock? Right now they show out of stock


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No sir.
I emailed them when @BjornF16 said somewhere they had some at MDT. I emailed. They sent an invoice and I paid it. Then they started to tell everyone to watch the website. I bought 5. 3 said canada 2 didnt so I assume they were US.
 
So just curious, has anybody done this course with a 2nd focal plane MOA rifle?

I’ve spent my whole “hunting life” using this type of scope and I’m concerned about changing out 8 expensive scopes for 8 more expensive scopes, particularly with a 2 different systems (Mil and 1st focus plane) I’ve never used before.
 
So just curious, has anybody done this course with a 2nd focal plane MOA rifle?

I’ve spent my whole “hunting life” using this type of scope and I’m concerned about changing out 8 expensive scopes for 8 more expensive scopes, particularly with a 2 different systems (Mil and 1st focus plane) I’ve never used before.

A couple guys brought them for our class if I’m not mistaken. I think everyone switched over pretty quickly during class, but that might have been a function/holding zero thing.

You won’t be able to make correct wind calls at distance w out major mental gymnastics.
 
So just curious, has anybody done this course with a 2nd focal plane MOA rifle?

I’ve spent my whole “hunting life” using this type of scope and I’m concerned about changing out 8 expensive scopes for 8 more expensive scopes, particularly with a 2 different systems (Mil and 1st focus plane) I’ve never used before.

A couple guys brought them for our class if I’m not mistaken. I think everyone switched over pretty quickly during class, but that might have been a function/holding zero thing.

You won’t be able to make correct wind calls at distance w out major mental gymnastics.

I second this. At the summer course last year, one of the instructors decided to torture himself using an MOA scope and went from hitting everything on demand out to 600+ faster than any student to frequently missing mid to long range shots due to wind as well as taking far longer to dial and get the shot off. Having an MOA scope will greatly limit your ability to be successful. That said, if it’s all you know and what you’d use normally, you should try to use it, if for no other reason than it will reinforce how much better mils are when you see the rapid progress made by other students using mil scopes.

I also think the second focal plane may limit you depending on the zoom you’ll need to be at to use the reticle accurately. Higher zoom will limit your FOV and without a reticle that can be used to make wind holds, longer shots will be very challenging.

It’s an unpopular opinion (until after you attend the course) but the idea of not embracing MIL scopes simply because you have multiple MOA based scopes and changing will be difficult is a poor choice. It would be similar to being left handed and left eye dominant but initially shooting right handed and with your right eye. Then someone shows you how to use a left handed rifle with your left eye and despite seeing it is far superior, you decide to stick with shooting right handed with your non-dominant eye because it’s too much work to switch. This will seem like an exaggeration to most but I promise you after seeing how much better a FFP Mil/Mil scope is at the course, you’ll see what I’m saying and want to change all your scopes regardless of the effort or cost.

Also, there are excellent rental guns set up with mil scopes so you can always go that route if you get tired of using your MOA scope.
 
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