Shoot2Hunt University

[WCT3]

@TimberHunter looks like a great season! Funny that you mentioned the mag falling out, I had a Tikka mag fall out for the first time this year. Luckily I was hiking on a trail and heard it hit the ground.

 

[hibernation]

Post S2H 2025 Hunting Season Recap


I took a mule deer buck in UT, Blacktail buck in AK and a cow elk in UT


The deer hunts did use aspects of S2H but the best illustration is the cow elk hunt

I was hiking into position to make a 500-600 yard shot from a rolling hill on some elk I had spotted. On my way up, I looked down the draw and there were 4 cows at about 300 yards heading straight to me

Without a second thought, I slung my backpack off and upright onto the ground and sat down on my butt. Looking back, I surprised myself how my mind knew exactly what to do without me thinking about it.

My already short Kuiu frame pack was even shorter as I was shooting down hill. For a moment, I thought to myself to try stacking toes (or stacking feet, don’t remember the correct terminology lol). I decided that was too low as well so I scooted back a bit which allowed me to lean further forward, solving my elevation problem.

The elk continued to walk toward me as I followed them with my crosshairs. I had my rifle c clamped to my backpack with my hand. The lead cow stopped and turned broadside at about 220 yards and I squeezed off a shot. Was a good hit. I racked the bolt quickly. In the heat of the moment, I hadn’t heard the tikka mag shoot out the bottom of the stock and I loaded what I thought was another round. Squeezed and then CLICK. Click I thought, how the hell did that happen?

I pulled my head off the stock and saw my mag sitting in a pile of dirt. My next thought was to grab my spare loaded mag in my pocket (I know, should’ve in the bino harness). I slammed it in and ran the bolt home. Cow had only taken a step or two at this point and I proceeded to put two more into her before she dropped. 3 total shots, 3 hits. One in the shoulder, 1 in the lungs and one just below the heart

This cow hunt was nearly 2 weeks ago and I’ve ran through the scenario multiple times since. I can’t honestly say what I would’ve done in that situation without S2H skills. Likely tried to somehow get prone (not an option) as that was my crutch before class.

Before the class, I never looked at my pack as a viable shooting rest. Nor did I ever carry a loaded spare mag

The tikka mag shooting out the bottom was a one off. I think I may have not had it seated all the way or pulled the tab with my pack as I fired the first shot.

S2H provided me with the rifleman education I was lacking. The countless hours practicing at home from positions other prone, made it second nature.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Thanks for writing that up. For those of us who haven't been to the class but are still picking up tips, it's really interesting the focus on efficiency at moderate distances. So much talk these days centers on purely extending your range, but it's been way more useful to me to work on really good consistent shooting from about 150 to 350. And to realize how much I suck when you take away prone.

 

[WCT3]

Thanks for writing that up. For those of us who haven't been to the class but are still picking up tips, it's really interesting the focus on efficiency at moderate distances. So much talk these days centers on purely extending your range, but it's been way more useful to me to work on really good consistent shooting from about 150 to 350. And to realize how much I suck when you take away prone.

I'm really looking forward to that aspect of the class whenever I get to take it. I missed a nice bull last year because I was rushed and inefficient and built a bad shooting platform.

 

[TimberHunter]

@TimberHunter looks like a great season! Funny that you mentioned the mag falling out, I had a Tikka mag fall out for the first time this year. Luckily I was hiking on a trail and heard it hit the ground.

Interesting… I wonder if it has something to do with the silver piece of metal that holds the mag in place when you push it in. I was going to take my stock off and check that it was aligned


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[WCT3]

Interesting… I wonder if it has something to do with the silver piece of metal that holds the mag in place when you push it in. I was going to take my stock off and check that it was aligned


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I've noticed that I need to press a little harder with my rokstok than the factory stock to get it to fully lock in so I think I may have only had it partially seated. My rifle is also almost ten years old with the factory bottom metal and several thousand rounds through it, I'm not sure if that little catch can wear out over time.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

I've noticed that I need to press a little harder with my rokstok than the factory stock to get it to fully lock in so I think I may have only had it partially seated. My rifle is also almost ten years old with the factory bottom metal and several thousand rounds through it, I'm not sure if that little catch can wear out over time.

Some stocks need a small shim or washer to make it easy to fully lock in magazines.

 

[B_Reynolds_AK]

Interesting… I wonder if it has something to do with the silver piece of metal that holds the mag in place when you push it in. I was going to take my stock off and check that it was aligned


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Quick tip: When tightening the trigger, that piece tends to turn at the last bit of torque. To keep it square, use a smooth faced knipex pliers to hold it in place as you torque the snot out of the trigger bolt. Grip over the metal part onto the trigger housing to keep it square.

 

[WCT3]

Some stocks need a small shim or washer to make it easy to fully lock in magazines.

I'll mess with it, I'm planning to pull the stock off to paint it soon

 

[Nine Banger]

Quick tip: When tightening the trigger, that piece tends to turn at the last bit of torque. To keep it square, use a smooth faced knipex pliers to hold it in place as you torque the snot out of the trigger bolt. Grip over the metal part onto the trigger housing to keep it square.

View attachment 982705

I leave one of these in my gun tool box for that.

Crescent 10" Adjustable Cushion Grip Wrench - Carded - AC210CVS - Amazon.com

Crescent 10" Adjustable Cushion Grip Wrench - Carded - AC210CVS - Amazon.com

www.amazon.com

 

[Wprinkle]

 

[Gstew1930]

View attachment 986785View attachment 986786

Lol wtf . Very jealous

 

[TimberHunter]

View attachment 986785View attachment 986786

Cool new weight/gym setup


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[longrangelead]

View attachment 986785View attachment 986786

your delivery guy demand a tip?

 

[Wprinkle]

LOL traded 6 bred cows and a young bull to a prepper/cult group around here.. I don't own an AR but I have an excuse to buy one now.. and just bought a 9mm pistol so now gotta figure out this pistol thing... they didn't have anything in 223/5.56 69 grains or bigger.... I asked

 

[RockAndSage]

View attachment 986785View attachment 986786

This is some glorious porn...

 

[TimberHunter]

Another dumb question

At the class we were thought to true drop by adjusting velocity. Reading these new TMK threads, it seems people are adjusting BC.

When does one go from adjusting vel to adjusting BC of bullet to make POI changes?

 

[Formidilosus]

Another dumb question

At the class we were thought to true drop by adjusting velocity. Reading these new TMK threads, it seems people are adjusting BC.

When does one go from adjusting vel to adjusting BC of bullet to make POI changes?

The reason that we are trueing BC is because there are no BC’s for them- we are trying to determine what the BC is. They are prototypes.

Do not touch real BC numbers on bullets.

 

[mtnwrunner]

Well done! Seeing the bipod on your rifle I am curious about when you use it. I never used one before the class and definitely don’t see a reason to after the class. I figured I’ll mount one on my rifle when I take the @PNWGATOR road hunting course this summer .

I have photos...........

 

[LBWV]

The reason that we are trueing BC is because there are no BC’s for them- we are trying to determine what the BC is. They are prototypes.

Do not touch real BC numbers on bullets.

@Formidilosus thanks for all the information you’ve shared on here and the podcasts.

This piggybacks off @TimberHunter’s question. I have heard other folks (outside of the TMK discussion) adjust their BC when trueing.
Could you please elaborate on why you shouldn’t “touch real BC numbers on bullets?”

Apologies if you’ve explained this somewhere else.

Thanks again.

 

[Formidilosus]

@Formidilosus thanks for all the information you’ve shared on here and the podcasts.

This piggybacks off @TimberHunter’s question. I have heard other folks (outside of the TMK discussion) adjust their BC when trueing.
Could you please elaborate on why you shouldn’t “touch real BC numbers on bullets?”

Apologies if you’ve explained this somewhere else.

Thanks again.

Because “real” BC numbers- Doppler, Oehler 88, etc.; are producing real numbers for BC. Rifle to rifle variation does not vary enough to see with live shooting without huge amount of rounds in very controlled environments, at very long range.

It takes a large difference in BC to cause noticeable shifts in the terminal range of bullets, much larger than is seen in rifle to rifle variation. So when people start messing with BC, they are just getting themselves in a tissy and muddying the waters.