Shipping long gun private party to FFL.. where did I go wrong?

[redneckbmxer24]

Read the second part. Call a post master if you don’t believe me. You’re breaking the law if you don’t tell them it’s a firearm.

 

[rodney482]

Read the second part. Call a post master if you don’t believe me. You’re breaking the law if you don’t tell them it’s a firearm.

I think your username speaks volumes.

 

[wy_will]

Wait, a gun is hazmat now???

 

[rodney482]

Wait, a gun is hazmat now???

No its not. Unless you vote D

 

[redneckbmxer24]

You’re sitting on your computer arguing with me and telling me I’m wrong, someone who has spoken to numerous post masters about this, but you won’t pick up your phone to call and ask for yourself. Probably because you don’t want to hear the answer you’re going to get.

 

[The Guide]

I think your username speaks volumes.

That guy is a pompous dbag and almost everything he posts rubs people wrong at some point. Pretty sure the ignore button was made for people like him.

Jay

 

[waldo9190]

For what it's worth...



432.22 on the same page states that the affidavit is required for a handgun (I.E. regulated) but nowhere under 432.3 does it state that the affidavit is required for Rifles/Shotguns.

 

[redneckbmxer24]

That guy is a pompous dbag and almost everything he posts rubs people wrong at some point. Pretty sure the ignore button was made for people like him.

Jay

Yes I’m a dbag for giving people advice that I know to be true so that they’re not breaking federal law.

 

[The Guide]

Yes I’m a dbag for giving people advice that I know to be true so that they’re not breaking federal law.

Not what you say but how you say it.

Jay

 

[atmat]

Nothing to chance …its clearly not a violation of law.

Maybe I dont want everyone to know, standing around me in the post office, what im mailing?

As if I trust any of these employees.

Again, the post office is supposed to have an opportunity to ask to inspect any firearm packages. If you don’t inform them, you’ve deprived them of their legal right to ask.

Most attorneys who specialize in defending firearm cases recommend you inform the post office for this reason. Sample screenshot attached.

You're welcome to do what you want, obviously. But you’re inviting criticism by legal authorities if you don’t declare it to the post office. An excuse of “well I don’t trust them” or “I didn’t want another customer to hear” isn’t a great defense.

 

[redneckbmxer24]

Not what you say but how you say it.

Jay

Not sorry that I don’t sugar coat my thoughts for sensitive snowflakes. If you click my username the ignore button is right there.

 

[amassi]

One of the hardest things I deal with in life is trying to accept that not everyone is on the same page as me

Or in possession of the same book.


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[twofer]

From the ATF website, quoting the National Firearms Act, below is the definition of a "regulated firearm." Notably, standard length rifles and shotguns are not included in the definition.

Which firearms are regulated under the NFA?​

The following weapons are regulated under the National Firearms Act (NFA):

1. A shotgun having a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length;
2. A weapon made from a shotgun if such weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 18 inches in length;
3. A rifle having a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length;
4. A weapon made from a rifle if such weapon as modified has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length;
5. Any other weapon, as defined in subsection (e);
6. A machinegun;
7. Any silencer (as defined in section 921 of title 18, United States Code); and
8. A destructive device.

 

[svivian]

Here you go genius. Federal law actually states written notification which is why they now require the affidavit to be filled out. You just admitted to breaking a federal law.

You can go into any post office and look at the posters on the wall and they all state the code and that you must declare anything that is perishable, hazardous or potentially dangerous. You 100% absolutely positively HAVE to declare a firearm when you’re shipping it it through USPS, UPS, or FedEx. It’s federal law.

From Cornell? lol can you post the actual law from a government website?

Man you like to argue on here... how many time outs have you been on now?

 

[HairyScandinavian]

Good luck OP! My bet is after a few days it'll show up in the system. This is the gov though, so it might sit on a shelf for 6 months. Get the popcorn ready.

 

[redneckbmxer24]

From Cornell? lol can you post the actual law from a government website?

Man you like to argue on here... how many time outs have you been on now?

It’s the same USC and their site is easier to navigate so who gives a shit. Even if I posted a screeenshot from a .gov website idiots would still argue otherwise because they can’t be wrong.

 

[rodney482]

Good luck OP! My bet is after a few days it'll show up in the system. This is the gov though, so it might sit on a shelf for 6 months. Get the popcorn ready.

Only has to go 4 hrs to get to my ffl. Still nothing

 

[redneckbmxer24]

Only has to go 4 hrs to get to my ffl. Still nothing

Ohh so you’re the buyer that’s flipping their lid when it’s likely just USPS’s website that’s just not updated. That explains a lot.

I’m putting you on my ignore list so that I never receive a PM from you about anything I’m selling and would have to deal with you. You’re clearly an unreasonable person.

 

[rodney482]

Ohh so you’re the buyer that’s flipping their lid when it’s likely just USPS’s website that’s just not updated. That explains a lot.

I’m putting you on my ignore list so that I never receive a PM from you about anything I’m selling and would have to deal with you. You’re clearly an unreasonable person.

Omg … youve been here a year … go have a tantrum somewhere else DB

 

[JDalton]

There is conflation between shipping long guns and handguns.
USPS does NOT ship handguns.

The exception is relics or museum pieces shipped between curators, which require an affidavit.

Both the ATF and USPS state you can ship long guns with NO mention of needing an affidavit. However, the ATF does make mention that it is Federal law to inform the shipper that it is a firearm.

Personally, I use Shipmygun.com which has a contract with UPS. You can drop the gun off directly at a UPS customer service center and have it to the buyer's FFL in usually 3 days.


https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-nonlicensee-ship-firearm-common-or-contract-carrier
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-nonlicensee-ship-firearm-through-us-postal-service