Seekins 6.5 prc problems

[Prestjd]

I have a seekins element 6.5 prc that I sent back to seekins, they gave me a complete new gun.

I'm having in consistent pressure spikes. Hard bolt lifts and flat primers.
Factory ammo hornady 147 eld m
Factory nosler accubonds.
Multiple handloads with multiple powders, primers, bullets, etc
Berger, hammer, nosler, seirra, hornady bullets.

On average 3in groups.


My dad has been helping, he's reloaded 46 years years. We both have multiple guns capable of well under 1/2in groups constantly. I also handload.

Glen seekins had offered to give me another caliber or another gun. But still I'm at a loss.

Dad's got a 6 creed in a ph2 that shoots amazing in a seekins he loves. Im not here to bash seekins. Just curious if anyone else has had issues

 

[JF_Idaho]

Is that the same problem you had with the original rifle?

 

[Maverick1]

Nobody on Rokslide has that problem. Everyone owns a Tikka! LOL.

 

[Kenn]

Seems like they handled it better than Fierce.

 

[Prestjd]

Is that the same problem you had with the original rifle?

Yes

 

[Prestjd]

Nobody on Rokslide has that problem. Everyone owns a Tikka! LOL.

Me too. Lol. But I'm thinking of putting a new barrel and stock on it

 

[TaperPin]

I have a seekins element 6.5 prc that I sent back to seekins, they gave me a complete new gun.

I'm having in consistent pressure spikes. Hard bolt lifts and flat primers.
Factory ammo hornady 147 eld m
Factory nosler accubonds.
Multiple handloads with multiple powders, primers, bullets, etc
Berger, hammer, nosler, seirra, hornady bullets.

On average 3in groups.


My dad has been helping, he's reloaded 46 years years. We both have multiple guns capable of well under 1/2in groups constantly. I also handload.

Glen seekins had offered to give me another caliber or another gun. But still I'm at a loss.

Dad's got a 6 creed in a ph2 that shoots amazing in a seekins he loves. Im not here to bash seekins. Just curious if anyone else has had issues

If you swap the scope with another known to be good, check torque on the base, and groups are still 3” I’d take them up on the offer for a different cartridge, or at least return it again for accuracy reasons. That’s a bummer to have to struggle with something that should be easy.

It would be interesting to know the backstory to the problem - did they get a batch of extra tight barrels, did a batch of reamers make weird chambers, etc? I’ll bet if it happened to you twice it happened to a lot of other people.

 

[Prestjd]

If you swap the scope with another known to be good, check torque on the base, and groups are still 3” I’d take them up on the offer for a different cartridge, or at least return it again for accuracy reasons. That’s a bummer to have to struggle with something that should be easy.

It would be interesting to know the backstory to the problem - did they get a batch of extra tight barrels, did a batch of reamers make weird chambers, etc? I’ll bet if it happened to you twice it happened to a lot of other people.

I did swap my nighforce and it was fine.
My dad posted on Facebook in Seekins group and we have well over 100 replies from misty bandwagon fans saying it's an ammo problem and we can't shoot, etc. Im not trying to start a pissing contest, I agree. I'm curious if it's a reamer problem. I can't believe I'm the only one that got 2 complete rifles that won't shoot back to back.
Glen Seekins himself posted in Facebook to offer to make it right.

 

[TaperPin]

I did swap my nighforce and it was fine.
My dad posted on Facebook in Seekins group and we have well over 100 replies from misty bandwagon fans saying it's an ammo problem and we can't shoot, etc. Im not trying to start a pissing contest, I agree. I'm curious if it's a reamer problem. I can't believe I'm the only one that got 2 complete rifles that won't shoot back to back.
Glen Seekins himself posted in Facebook to offer to make it right.

With blessing from Glen, hopefully they give you one of those extra accurate rifles that are set aside for employees and special clients.

 

[waspocrew]

Bummer, generally Seekins rifles do very well without too many hiccups.

I’d take another new rifle (provided it was tested before the send to you). Or see if you can get a full refund.

I’ve had two Seekins rifles and both have shot very well. Sorry you haven’t had the same experience!

 

[Halligan]

It would be interesting to know the backstory to the problem - did they get a batch of extra tight barrels, did a batch of reamers make weird chambers, etc? I’ll bet if it happened to you twice it happened to a lot of other people.

This-not specific to Seekins, but when this kind of issue arises in a new rifle, short of bad ammo batches (don't think that is the case here obviously), it is highly plausible its a chamber spec issue

 

[TaperPin]

This-not specific to Seekins, but when this kind of issue arises in a new rifle, short of bad ammo batches (don't think that is the case here obviously), it is highly plausible its a chamber spec issue

Yes.
I’ve also had a dragging firing pin cause ignition problems and big accuracy issues.

It’s always suspenseful when something like this happens - hopefully it gets resolved and find out what caused it.

 

[wind gypsy]

The elements seem more issue prone, I wouldn’t want one.

Had 2 ph/ph2 300 WMs that didn’t shoot 212s or 215s acceptably for me. Put a bartlein on rather than trying a third and it has been easy living ever since.

 

[Prestjd]

The elements seem more issue prone, I wouldn’t want one.

Had 2 ph/ph2 300 WMs that didn’t shoot 212s or 215s acceptably for me. Put a bartlein on rather than trying a third and it has been easy living ever since.

I just hate to put a new barrel on a new sub $3k gun

 

[CSY]

Did you check action screw torque? I had a Weatherby Vanguard that I could not get to shoot. I decided to do a deep clean and adjust the trigger, which required removal from the stock. I was able to remove the action screws with my fingers. After the deep clean and proper torque/thread locker, the gun shoots MOA with factory ELD-Ms.

 

[Prestjd]

Did you check action screw torque? I had a Weatherby Vanguard that I could not get to shoot. I decided to do a deep clean and adjust the trigger, which required removal from the stock. I was able to remove the action screws with my fingers. After the deep clean and proper torque/thread locker, the gun shoots MOA with factory ELD-Ms.

Yes

 

[jhoff04]

My 7 PRC element had pressure issues (not nearly as severe as you’re describing). Grouped decent. Was hoping for a little better but was also using factory ammo. Just got it back from them and still need to get it to the range to see how it shoots this time around.

I’d agree that it seems maybe these elements are a little more finicky and can be prone to issues but if I were you I’d take him up on that offer.

 

[Prestjd]

I think my best bet it to swap it for the 7prc. I have no interest in a 22in 300win when I own a 300wsm already

 

[wind gypsy]

I just hate to put a new barrel on a new sub $3k gun

Don’t blame you at all. To me wasting more load bench and range time on a 3rd try was less palatable than just biting the bullet.

 

[Prestjd]

Glen Seekins reached out via facebook and said they will be back open January 6th. He's offered to repair, replace until I'm satisfied or refund. I am certainly pleased with his willingness to make things right. So now I'm torn between a 7prc or a refund.

I already have brass, dies, bullets for a 300wsm.
I could sell my tikka laminate stainless t3x 300wsm and build what I want

Carbon 6 20in barrel
Peak 44 stock
Trigger tech
Solus action?
Hawkins bottom metal?