S2H Winter Rifle Course Observations/lessons

[Antares]

This is the response I received from them a few weeks ago. "Buy an MDT chassis and use AICS mags..." Pass.

 

[Formidilosus]

Many climbing/mountaineering companies make jackets that meet these thresholds. Some quick places to look would be Rab, Feathered Friends and Western Mountaineering all make parkas with fill weight from 12-20oz. Occassionally color is a bit less than desirable compared to camo but both FF and Rab frequently make coats in black.

A buddy has a Patagonia Grade VII down jacket that I'm envious of every time he puts it on. It's a damn shame that was discontinued. And also not a lot cheaper.

Most are belt length (too short), and or are heavy.

I haven’t looked in a couple of years, but what jacket has 12+ oz of fill, falls to upper thigh, and doesn’t weigh 30+ ounces?

 

[JohnB]

Most are belt length (too short), and or are heavy.

I haven’t looked in a couple of years, but what jacket has 12+ oz of fill, falls to upper thigh, and doesn’t weigh 30+ ounces?

Ah, makes sense. Those are some tough criteria and I'm not sure that any of the jackets I was thinking of would meet them. I'll be curious to hear what is in the works. I've been real happy with my FL Chamberlin this winter for cougar calling around 10 degrees and bc skiing in the -10 to 0 range but down jacketitis can strike at the damned times.

 

[wind gypsy]

I almost got one of these a handful of years back but settled for a FL Chamberlin on sale.

Ion Parka – Western Mountaineering

www.westernmountaineering.com

If 8 oz of 850+ fill plus gore windstopper isn't enough.. they make this too

Snøjack Parka GWS – Western Mountaineering

www.westernmountaineering.com

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

I almost got one of these a handful of years back but settled for a FL Chamberlin on sale.

Ion Parka – Western Mountaineering

www.westernmountaineering.com

If 8 oz of 850+ fill plus gore windstopper isn't enough.. they make this too

Snøjack Parka GWS – Western Mountaineering

www.westernmountaineering.com

I’ve owned the snojack. It’s typical mountaneering fit where it’s super short in the torso and back (by design).

For that price you’re at Nunatak custom territory who uses the best available untreated down and whatever face fabric you want. Plus tailored to your dimensions and can be made long in the seat, etc.

 

[wind gypsy]

I’ve owned the snojack. It’s typical mountaneering fit where it’s super short in the torso and back (by design).

For that price you’re at Nunatak custom territory who uses the best available untreated down and whatever face fabric you want. Plus tailored to your dimensions and can be made long in the seat, etc.

Ion looks like a longer option. I'm a fan of Nunatak, have custom apex puffy jacket, pants, and sleeping bag from them. I didn't think Jan made anything with windstopper though.

On something that warm, the extra creature comfort features (pockets) are nice too which the WM doesn't seem to have either.

 

[TOLeary]

Most are belt length (too short), and or are heavy.

I haven’t looked in a couple of years, but what jacket has 12+ oz of fill, falls to upper thigh, and doesn’t weigh 30+ ounces?

You’re most likely looking at a custom Timmermade or Nunatak if they’re open to it. Atleast what you could get now. And fully made to your specs

 

[coloradoan]

If I sent this thread (and the comments on down vs synthetic) to Jerry Wigutow he'd have an aneurysm.