RokStok

[Sadler]

So, I had to shim the action bolt holes because the action was sitting too low in the stock. The magazine latch wouldn't function and the bolt was extremely stiff. Putting a shim in cleared up both of those issues. My question is, are the shims fine long term or should I figure something else out?

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I’ve had to do that for both of my tikka actions with factory bottom metal.

 

[deerhunter628]

I had to shim my Christinsen Arms LA in both of my LA Rokstoks. No long term reports yet, but i could not cycle the bolt without the shim washers.

 

[Grundy53]

What action and what bottom metal?

Remington 700 UM M5

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[Grundy53]

Did you just use the appropriate size washers for shims under the bottom metal?

I don't know the appropriate size. So probably not. Lol

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[Formidilosus]

Remington 700 UM M5

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If you used washers, it should be fine, but personally I would bed it after the season.


For others- the R700 pattern actions are not all exactly the same. That’s why chassis can be very loose fits depending on whose action is put in. I’ve got three different R700 pattern custom actions, and they are not interchangeable in stocks when bedded, or when the inlet is tight. They are close generally, but tweaking the inlet is a thing with them.

 

[deerhunter628]

If you used washers, it should be fine, but personally I would bed it after the season.


For others- the R700 pattern actions are not all exactly the same. That’s why chassis can be very loose fits depending on whose action is put in. I’ve got three different R700 pattern custom actions, and they are not interchangeable in stocks when bedded, or when the inlet is tight. They are close generally, but tweaking the inlet is a thing with them.

Are you saying that bedding the action should eliminate the need for shims in the Rem 700?

 

[Grundy53]

If you used washers, it should be fine, but personally I would bed it after the season.


For others- the R700 pattern actions are not all exactly the same. That’s why chassis can be very loose fits depending on whose action is put in. I’ve got three different R700 pattern custom actions, and they are not interchangeable in stocks when bedded, or when the inlet is tight. They are close generally, but tweaking the inlet is a thing with them.

Thank you

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[Formidilosus]

Are you saying that bedding the action should eliminate the need for shims in the Rem 700?

I was saying that I would bed the action and bottom metal.

 

[deerhunter628]

I was saying that I would bed the action and bottom metal.

Ok. Thanks. I have bed actions but i have never bed bottom metal. I will need to study up on youtube

 

[khuber84]

Ok. Thanks. I have bed actions but i have never bed bottom metal. I will need to study up on youtube

If your pillar height is good(the bottom metal is sitting firmly on and square to pillars), and the action is bedded, there's minimal to no advantage to bedding the bottom metal. If the inlet is poor and there is huge gaps, I could see the aesthetic purpose. I have had a few mini chassis that the bottom metal wasn't sitting flush/square. I did bed them so that the bottom metal showed no initiated flex upon torquing.

Maybe make an experiment of it. Shoot the rifle w/o bottom metal bedded, then bed and re-shoot. See if it's worth your time/efforts. It was not in my experience.

 

[ChrisAU]

If you used washers, it should be fine, but personally I would bed it after the season.


For others- the R700 pattern actions are not all exactly the same. That’s why chassis can be very loose fits depending on whose action is put in. I’ve got three different R700 pattern custom actions, and they are not interchangeable in stocks when bedded, or when the inlet is tight. They are close generally, but tweaking the inlet is a thing with them.

Just this calendar year I’ve built rifles on Terminus, Falkor, Impact, Pure Precision, Defiance, and American Rifle Co in Manners and MDT stocks/chassis and never had a single issue with action to bm/pillar height. Bedding them would obviously cause issues in design differences, but that measurement is an odd one to run into issues with.

 

[Formidilosus]

Just this calendar year I’ve built rifles on Terminus, Falkor, Impact, Pure Precision, Defiance, and American Rifle Co in Manners and MDT stocks/chassis and never had a single issue with action to bm/pillar height. Bedding them would obviously cause issues in design differences, but that measurement is an odd one to run into issues with.

Can’t say on the bottom metal depth issue, I was generally referring to the talk about general inlet issues with M700’s here.

Chassis have their own BM and it should all be lined up. However, their also is tendency to inlet on the loose side to make sure everything fits with chassis. Stocks don’t, and there certainly are issues that can and do happen between different action, stocks, and bottom metals. The “custom” M700 isn’t a perfect plug and play anymore.

 

[deerhunter628]

If your pillar height is good(the bottom metal is sitting firmly on and square to pillars), and the action is bedded, there's minimal to no advantage to bedding the bottom metal. If the inlet is poor and there is huge gaps, I could see the aesthetic purpose. I have had a few mini chassis that the bottom metal wasn't sitting flush/square. I did bed them so that the bottom metal showed no initiated flex upon torquing.

Maybe make an experiment of it. Shoot the rifle w/o bottom metal bedded, then bed and re-shoot. See if it's worth your time/efforts. It was not in my experience.

I think i should bed the action anyway. Hopefully that will take care of everything.

 

[ezwy]

First animal with the Rokstok. WI whitetail. This one out of a tree saddle free handed of all the shooting positions. Worked great on a quick shot. I love this stock.
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Any issues seeing your suppressor in the scope with that setup?