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[gbflyer]

You guys need to let them work instead of answer questions on a forum.

 

[The Guide]

Can you make this make more sense?

While I'm not Jake and I'm not associated with UM or S2H, I have been paying attention for the last year and think I can answer your questions as they have been explained here, on the Podcast, and in social media. Each bullet point will address each statement you quoted.

1. All stocks come in as unfinished stocks in bare carbon and since UM/S2H owns the molds, Stockys cannot/will not sell any stocks that are not good enough quality to send to UM as blems. If it isn't good enough to ship to UM, they will be destroyed or repaired to be used for painted stocks.

2. Stocks not good enough to be sent out as pure bare carbon stocks are in abundance right now but are all being used to make painted stocks and fill orders and therefore are not for sale right now.

3. Once all orders are filled, stocks not of a quality to be sold as bare carbon will be available. To get one that you wanted to paint your self, note in your order of a single color stock that you want a bare carbon stock with imperfections without paint.

4. While we may have seconds/blems in the future, we do not plan to sell them at a discounted price since we can use them for painted stocks and our product plan and pricing structure does not allow for a decrease in margin to allow for additional discounts at this time.

I might be full of hot air but I think I've paid attention enough to give the basic answers without overstepping. Hope this helps.

Jay

 

[9.3koolaid]

While I'm not Jake and I'm not associated with UM or S2H, I have been paying attention for the last year and think I can answer your questions as they have been explained here, on the Podcast, and in social media. Each bullet point will address each statement you quoted.

1. All stocks come in as unfinished stocks in bare carbon and since UM/S2H owns the molds, Stockys cannot/will not sell any stocks that are not good enough quality to send to UM as blems. If it isn't good enough to ship to UM, they will be destroyed or repaired to be used for painted stocks.

2. Stocks not good enough to be sent out as pure bare carbon stocks are in abundance right now but are all being used to make painted stocks and fill orders and therefore are not for sale right now.

3. Once all orders are filled, stocks not of a quality to be sold as bare carbon will be available. To get one that you wanted to paint your self, note in your order of a single color stock that you want a bare carbon stock with imperfections without paint.

4. While we may have seconds/blems in the future, we do not plan to sell them at a discounted price since we can use them for painted stocks and our product plan and pricing structure does not allow for a decrease in margin to allow for additional discounts at this time.

I might be full of hot air but I think I've paid attention enough to give the basic answers without overstepping. Hope this helps.

Jay

That makes sense to me as long as the blems are only cosmetic? Blems are different from a "second" I take it?

 

[The Guide]

That makes sense to me as long as the blems are only cosmetic? Blems are different from a "second" I take it?

As far as I've heard discussed, there are going to be 2 levels of stocks produced that will ship to UM from Stockys that will be offered for sale and 1 level that won't be offered for sale.

Level 1. Perfect stocks without any blemishes. These stocks will be used for orders that requested bare carbon or any other painted order if received in an order that matches a requested order. If you requested a bare carbon and only want a bare carbon you make get skipped while they wait for a stock that passes QC for perfect bare carbon.

Level 2. Stocks with slight cosmetic imperfections that were filled with black epoxy by Stockys. These stocks are functionally and structurally perfect but the carbon fiber finish does not meet what they have set as QC level of perfection for bare carbon in level 1. These stocks will be used for order where the original surface will be covered and never seen.

Level 3. These stocks will never be for sale. These stocks passed Stockys QC and failed UM'S QC. Depending upon the failure, these stocks may be used as shop stocks, test stocks, shooting school stocks, or in other functions but will never be offered for sale to the public.

What UM plans to call a blem or a second will be an internal call based on what their SOP on QC for stocks is. Blem and Second is often used interchangeably and in this case I feel it falls into a level 2 stock and not the level 3 stock. From a business perspective Jake has said he will throw a product in the trash before he sends out a product that doesn't live up to his vision of UM quality.

Jay

 

[Gstew1930]

I'm ready to place my orders lol. i waited to long

 

[wnelson14]

I'm ready to place my orders lol. i waited to long

Same here!!

 

[Unknown Munitions]

I was late to the party. I just haven't seen any 700 LA posted up. 199144

Just picked up a Vesper on the bogo sale which is now the intended action for this stock.

Your order date was 8/15, it will come around soon.

 

[Unknown Munitions]

Not necessarily a UM question if anyone else has experienced, but I ordered 2-3 color, missed the spot to specify colors, etc. Will they contact me when stock is in and ready to cerakote?

Yes, if there is any confusion on your order, you will be contacted.

 

[Unknown Munitions]

Can you make this make more sense?

Not really, there are no blems as of this moment.
After speaking with Stockys, the discount for blems is so minimal it doesn't matter anyway.
This is because the pricing structure on these stocks is so amazing.

 

[Unknown Munitions]

I'm ready to place my orders lol. i waited to long

Same here!!

Hopefully by end of year, if not a hair sooner.

 

[IrkedCitizen]

Your order date was 8/15, it will come around soon.

I'm aware when my order date was. I have only seen R700 SA posted haven't seen a R700 LA posted by anyone.

 

[Unknown Munitions]

While I'm not Jake and I'm not associated with UM or S2H, I have been paying attention for the last year and think I can answer your questions as they have been explained here, on the Podcast, and in social media. Each bullet point will address each statement you quoted.

1. All stocks come in as unfinished stocks in bare carbon and since UM/S2H owns the molds, Stockys cannot/will not sell any stocks that are not good enough quality to send to UM as blems. If it isn't good enough to ship to UM, they will be destroyed or repaired to be used for painted stocks.

2. Stocks not good enough to be sent out as pure bare carbon stocks are in abundance right now but are all being used to make painted stocks and fill orders and therefore are not for sale right now.

3. Once all orders are filled, stocks not of a quality to be sold as bare carbon will be available. To get one that you wanted to paint your self, note in your order of a single color stock that you want a bare carbon stock with imperfections without paint.

4. While we may have seconds/blems in the future, we do not plan to sell them at a discounted price since we can use them for painted stocks and our product plan and pricing structure does not allow for a decrease in margin to allow for additional discounts at this time.

I might be full of hot air but I think I've paid attention enough to give the basic answers without overstepping. Hope this helps.

Jay

Well said sir!

 

[Unknown Munitions]

I'm aware when my order date was. I have only seen R700 SA posted haven't seen a R700 LA posted by anyone.

To answer your question, yes....REM 700 Longs have been produced and are "in the wild".

 

[TT electric]

Will the future Trinity rail utilize the same hole as the Spartan/Pic option to swap out when available?

 

[Marbles]

Not really, there are no blems as of this moment.
After speaking with Stockys, the discount for blems is so minimal it doesn't matter anyway.
This is because the pricing structure on these stocks is so amazing.

The price is indeed very good. At the moment I would by a blem just to get another stock now, no discount needed. I'm sure someone else would beat me to buying it though, that is the problem with being slow, like I am....

 

[JBahr]

Full custom tikka ordered 2/28/24 with a custom cerakote job… order# 189827. Any ideas? Supposedly, just waiting on the stock. Thinking I might be caught up in the cerakote backlog.

 

[yeti12]

Full custom tikka ordered 2/28/24 with a custom cerakote job… order# 189827. Any ideas? Supposedly, just waiting on the stock. Thinking I might be caught up in the cerakote backlog.

If it's a railed stock you are going to be waiting a real long while. Don't know for sure but not that long ago there was day 1 orders still unfulfilled. There's alot of us that ordered the first week and our stocks haven't been molded yet.

 

[bojangles808]

yea im sure it will get sorted

update. it got sorted. got a call yesterday saying it was ready and just needed to pay my invoice and shipped out today from UM. both the threaded barreled action and my stock with the spacers. so had to wait a little bit longer on the spacers and much shorter on the threading so it's evened out and should be back in my hands by thursday. thx UM.

 

[Billy Goat]

If it's a railed stock you are going to be waiting a real long while. Don't know for sure but not that long ago there was day 1 orders still unfulfilled. There's alot of us that ordered the first week and our stocks haven't been molded yet.

It was said early, builds went before stock orders.

So if you wanted an early RS, order a build.

I don't know if that's still the case, but I'd think a build still gets some priority.


I'm a day one still waiting, but have no issue with those that ordered a full firearm getting some priority.

 

[swavescatter]

It was said early, builds went before stock orders.

So if you wanted an early RS, order a build.

I don't know if that's still the case, but I'd think a build still gets some priority.


I'm a day one still waiting, but have no issue with those that ordered a full firearm getting some priority.

Pretty much all the promises and guarantees made at launch have vaporized. But you get a new limited edition red carpet card