RokStok

[SDHNTR]

Pretty sure it is 12*

Ok, so why is 12 better than 3?

 

[IrkedCitizen]

Ok, so why is 12 better than 3?

I don't really care? I don't have skin in this game. I have not ordered one. I've just been watching this thread because it has been entertaining and I remember seeing 12* mentioned. But if it works at 12* then it works at 12*. Why does it matter that it's not 3*?

 

[lak2004]

Ok, so why is 12 better than 3?

The goal was to get above bore line and remain functional for cheek weld, etc. The angle is what it is based on function. Those are my summarizing thoughts after keeping up with this thread since inception.

 

[BBob]

Because this stock is above boreline. Others with negative comb are not

@SDHNTR be aware of this detail.

So if any of you haven’t figured this out (stock above boreline) or forgot about it, you’re not cleaning your rifle (barrel bore) while it’s in the stock unless you do it from the muzzle or pull it from the stock. Your other option is to follow the no clean routine

Edit: or use a pull through cleaning system.

 

[SDHNTR]

I don't really care? I don't have skin in this game. I have not ordered one. I've just been watching this thread because it has been entertaining and I remember seeing 12* mentioned. But if it works at 12* then it works at 12*. Why does it matter that it's not 3*?

I know a lot of thought and research went in to this stock. That’s why I’m asking. I’d have to think the reasoning behind that much negative slope was something more rooted in empirical data and/or functional logic than just some “more is better” theory. Or some simple thought that the market wouldn’t support 12 deg a few years ago and it will now.

These guys aren’t Bubbas and seem rather scientific. They don’t do things just because. Logic dictates their preferences. My brain works the same way, and that’s what I’m trying to understand. Why is 12 degrees the functional sweet spot? Where is the point of diminishing returns?

 

[BBob]

These guys seem more scientific than that. And that’s what I’m trying to understand. Why is 12 degrees the functional sweet spot? Where is the point of diminishing returns?

Because they tested multiple iterations of the thing. They had more angle to start with but backed off until it worked for a number of shooters. The evolution of this is in the thread if you were following along.

 

[Cant hit em]

@SDHNTR be aware of this detail.

So if any of you haven’t figured this out (stock above boreline) or forgot about it, you’re not cleaning your rifle (barrel bore) while it’s in the stock unless you do it from the muzzle or pull it from the stock. Your other option is to follow the no clean routine

Bore snake


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[SDHNTR]

Because they tested multiple iterations of the thing. They had more angle to start with but backed off until it worked for a number of shooters. The evolution of this is in the thread if you were following along.

Sorry, ADD, I can’t read 2000 posts.

 

[Crowster737]

Watching

 

[BBob]

Bore snake

I suppose we could add the OTIS to that too.

 

[BjornF16]

@SDHUNTER

Look at the post below (#2013?). They’ve gone through a couple of iterations to find the best balance.

Just select search, limit the search to this thread, and search in Form’s posts

RokStok

SRS coming in with comment # 2000 as I take a break from designing the Spartan Pic rail for the stock. ;) My post isn’t a Space Odyssey…looking forward to the Spartan pic rail as I ordered it for my design flawed Rokstok

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[Fowl Play]

I know a lot of thought and research went in to this stock. That’s why I’m asking. I’d have to think the reasoning behind that much negative slope was something more rooted in empirical data and/or functional logic than just some “more is better” theory. Or some simple thought that the market wouldn’t support 12 deg a few years ago and it will now.

These guys aren’t Bubbas and seem rather scientific. They don’t do things just because. Logic dictates their preferences. My brain works the same way, and that’s what I’m trying to understand. Why is 12 degrees the functional sweet spot? Where is the point of diminishing returns?

The continuation of the negative comb is just to get the buttpad above bore line to help prevent muzzle rise — although believe this is only fully realized during prone shooting when your shoulder engages that part of the stock. The hyper aggressive shark fin at the beginning was just to get more above bore line. Sounds like they had to back off a tad as it was not conducive for as many body/face shapes.

 

[SDHNTR]

@SDHUNTER

Look at the post below (#2013?). They’ve gone through a couple of iterations to find the best balance.

Just select search, limit the search to this thread, and search in Form’s posts

RokStok

SRS coming in with comment # 2000 as I take a break from designing the Spartan Pic rail for the stock. ;) My post isn’t a Space Odyssey…looking forward to the Spartan pic rail as I ordered it for my design flawed Rokstok

rokslide.com

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Post 2013 is talking about toe angle. I understand that completely. I’m talking about the extreme comb angle and I’ve yet to see a logical explanation.

This is turning into too much back-and-forth and only adding to the chaos of a 2000+ post thread. Everyone can disregard, and I will ask Form directly via PM. It seems I am the only one who really cares about this particular matter anyways.

 

[BBob]

I’m talking about the extreme comb angle and I’ve yet to see a logical explanation.

Gzus man! Learn to use the search function

Search results for query: Negative comb

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[snopro176]

After watching form shoot, you should have an event at the next seminar where everyone in the crowd brings and item and one by one you toss it to him and he has you use it as a rear bag

that was good stuff

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[TheCougar]

What tripod head? I’ve been using a 2” pic rail in front of the magwell with my RRS clamp instead of an arca plate. Couldn’t get on board with the arca sticking out.

holy crap. Why have I never thought of this?!? Probably more easier to hand carry too and it doesn’t slide under recoil.

 

[SDHNTR]

Gzus man! Learn to use the search function

Search results for query: Negative comb

rokslide.com

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My specific question still has not been answered. Again, no need to keep piling on. I’ll ask the man myself.

 

[Axlrod]

Ok, so why is 12 better than 3?

Meh. I don't care how the watch was made, I just want to know what time it is.

 

[willfrye027]

holy crap. Why have I never thought of this?!? Probably more easier to hand carry too and it doesn’t slide under recoil.

holy crap. Why have I never thought of this?!? Probably more easier to hand carry too and it doesn’t slide under recoil.

I’m still not 100% sold on the tripod shooting in general but this is definitely working well as an attachment point.

 

[snopro176]

The binos was pretty funny.
Or beanos as @Unknown Munitions calls them

This is what I picture every time he says it..

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