Rokstok Lite

[General RE LEE]

Howa Mini support…sweet!

 

[HighUintas]

Roksliders, here is the first glimpse of the highly anticipated Rokstok Lite. I will supply the production and retail info I know and then let @Formidilosus and @Ryan Avery take over with the real details you want.

I don't know yet if there will be a scalloped rail version, it looks like there may not be enough meat on there but we'll see. If there's not enough room we will design some super lite rail versions for it to keep the weight down.

The wood design is right at 20/21 ounces with butt pad, I don't know where the carbon will end up.

We plan to have the LOP backing plate integrated on this model so you can add spacers as needed. The original Rokstok needed the mold to incorporate the LOP and we did not think of that ahead of time.

Pricing will be very similar to the original Rokstok.

Action inlets will be limited to 700 Short, Tikka, Howa mini, Kimber, Savage. We are open to more requests, I may have missed some here.

We plan to make a youth model with a short LOP that comes with the spacer kit to grow with your child. Any input on minimum LOP would be great so we know where to start.

As the wood version has just been approved by @Formidilosus the process is to scan the stock, 3D print the stock for dimensional checks, then have molds made, then acid etch the molds, then start test inlets, then finally production stocks.

I won't try just yet to put a timeline on this, but will keep you updated on this thread as we move along. But the process is underway!!!

Thank you all for your support of UM and S2H!!!!
Jake Mushaney

@Stockys @Salmon River Solutions

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I'm guessing there's no solid timeline on sale/delivery yet?

 

[Stocky]

What?

There will be two different stocks a standard and youth.

I didn't see there would be 2 rokstok lites. But every one's asking for a short stock and it concerns me considering most have found that they like spacers in the rokstok as it is. Keeping the rokstok lite at atleast 13.5" and doing a seperares youth stock for kids would be great.

while we are on LOP, I think you should go with whatever fits the most people. Seems like most found the rokstock too short. If we have to put 2-3oz of spacers on a 16oz stock it will be kind of a bummer.

This! It's not lightweight if you just made it too small and have to add a bunch of stuff to make it serviceable. Spacers are weaker structurally, heavier, and uglier than just making the stock the right size for most.

 

[Ferrulewax]

reading is hard apparently

I am aware they talking about two stocks, but if one is kid short and one is still shorter than the average person short, then you will have to add spacers to either.

 

[bojangles808]

I am aware they talking about two stocks, but if one is kid short and one is still shorter than the average person short, then you will have to add spacers to either.

I wasn't referencing you, I understood your point. I trust whatever they come out will be best for the masses.They should have enough data through spacers sales and testing about what will be best

 

[prm]

Need to make the adult version short enough to meet short LOP requirements. Can add length, hard to shorten.

 

[Ferrulewax]

Need to make the adult version short enough to meet short LOP requirements. Can add length, hard to shorten,
.

Or just make it to best fit the average person, and short people can add spacers to the shorter one. IMO, cater to the average user and then provide options (less optimal) for people outside the average user.

 

[HighUintas]

Rokstok LITE. Not rokstok average with lots of spacers.

Two stocks ... One short/youth lop, one average person lop

 

[prm]

To be clear, I am only referring to an adult version. The 13.5” of the reg Rokstok seems common for adults. Will this be 13.5” with option to extend or be at 13.75” and then extend? Wasn’t sure what doing the mold differently implied. A factory 84M is 13.5, and I’d not want it any longer.

 

[ElPollo]

Roksliders, here is the first glimpse of the highly anticipated Rokstok Lite. I will supply the production and retail info I know and then let @Formidilosus and @Ryan Avery take over with the real details you want.

I don't know yet if there will be a scalloped rail version, it looks like there may not be enough meat on there but we'll see. If there's not enough room we will design some super lite rail versions for it to keep the weight down.

The wood design is right at 20/21 ounces with butt pad, I don't know where the carbon will end up.

We plan to have the LOP backing plate integrated on this model so you can add spacers as needed. The original Rokstok needed the mold to incorporate the LOP and we did not think of that ahead of time.

Pricing will be very similar to the original Rokstok.

Action inlets will be limited to 700 Short, Tikka, Howa mini, Kimber, Savage. We are open to more requests, I may have missed some here.

We plan to make a youth model with a short LOP that comes with the spacer kit to grow with your child. Any input on minimum LOP would be great so we know where to start.

As the wood version has just been approved by @Formidilosus the process is to scan the stock, 3D print the stock for dimensional checks, then have molds made, then acid etch the molds, then start test inlets, then finally production stocks.

I won't try just yet to put a timeline on this, but will keep you updated on this thread as we move along. But the process is underway!!!

Thank you all for your support of UM and S2H!!!!
Jake Mushaney

@Stockys @Salmon River Solutions

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Are you going to do wood versions of the lite?

 

[bojangles808]

Acting like you have never misunderstood/misread something is easy (especially at the end of the day)... Actually having never done it is hard...

I missed the 2 different stocks part of post 1 then read an entire thread of people asking for stocks for children and midgets. I also literally added an edit to the post saying I may have misread above before the next response occurred. Should I have deleted it and reposted the point I was trying to make about not making it too short for average? I felt deleting it would have been disingenuous and feels like I'm trying to hide the fact I made a mistake (which obviously I did).

I was comfortable enough to say I missed that part in my response to Ryan and accept I'd messed up assuming they would be the same. I try not to do it but it happens.

deleted my comment. I was rude, I apologize. Not trying to be forum A-hole guy. Carry on. RS lite looks sweet.

 

[Snowhunter11]

Youth LOP question.. I imagine around 11” is where you will start. My three girls I am thinking will need something more like 10” to get rolling at ~10 years old. I have one kid now that is struggling with the factory 10/22 stock. My plan with the 10/22 is a telescoping stock. For the ROKlite the question is what is the shortest one could to and get to 12.5-13” or just shy of your adult offering? @Unknown Munitions @Ryan Avery @Formidilosus

Thanks guys for doing these projects.

 

[General RE LEE]

Yall able to run a cleaning rod through a bore guide on the Rok Stok?

 

[Brix8984]

Not sure on youth lop but my 8 year old daughter who is 4’5” is able to get behind my regular rokstoks fairly well. I’d compare it to the compact factory tikka stock so these may not need to be super short imo.

 

[General RE LEE]

Longer LOP stocks put in me in a “bladed” position with my shoulders angled. Not good for recoil management.

I’m coming to appreciate and desire shorter LOP so I can square up, tuck that sucker as close to my centerline as possible and get that recoil straight back. Ive really improved my ability to spot shots this way.

If the OG Rok is shorter LOP, that may be a good thing for recoil management.

 

[Nine Banger]

Here’s 10”.

 

[B_Reynolds_AK]

Should start a “Youth Rokstok” thread see rate from the “Lite” to not clutter this one with LOP posts.

 

[Nine Banger]

Should start a “Youth Rokstok” thread see rate from the “Lite” to not clutter this one with LOP posts.

I am wondering why the Lite is in discussion for "youthenizing" and not the regular version since the regular isn't heavy.

 

[B_Reynolds_AK]

I was wondering why the Lite was in discussion for youthenizing and not the "regular" since the regular isn't heavy.

It isn’t, as far as I’m aware.
Jake created a thread that unintentionally added to the confusion by asking for input on a youth model under the Lite thread.
I just started a new thread for the youth model.

 

[Tahoe1305]

I cut down a t1x for my 5 year old last season. I just measured it. It’s 11.5”. I can’t imagine anyone wanting to spend this kind of $$ on a 4 year old or younger to shoot something shorter than that. Or at least shoot a gun they can manage. These likely will be inlet for CF rifles not rimfires ….

For reference he was 45” tall when he was shooting that.

IMO it’s a much better idea to pick up a cheap $50 tikka factory stock, cut it with a saw, add a recoil pad, maybe a SRS front arca for a tripod and go. You’d be into it for a small fraction of what this will costs.

When your kid is truly “youth” and not toddler age then you can invest in the adjustable version.