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[RyanT26]

Maybe in your western states. Pennsylvania in 1999 sold just under 1 million resident adult licenses, this year they sold about 558k. Demand has continued to drop year after year, you can look at the last 10, this was the first year with a slight uptick, many attribute that to adding a few Sundays we could hunt and a deer opener on a Saturday instead of a Monday.

I understand the frustration, but we do need hunters, we do need recruitment, even if 1/4 of these Instagram hunters stick with it, it will help. How long do you think they will manage game and throw money at programs and "allow" us to hunt if we are few and far between?

I would like to see how many of states total number of hunters, not non resident, has actually risen in the last 10 years, I am sure there is very few, if any.

You guys can’t hunt all Sundays?
This is the same thing that gets said all the time. The eastern half the United States people aren’t hunting. Just cause you’re not hunting there doesn’t mean that you’re not heading out west.
I’ll stand by my comment. I really hope the popularity of hunting right now is just a fad.
Most of the hunting and fishing content put on Facebook and Instagram it’s just retarded. Like the whole phase right now of men and women taking a bite out of a fresh heart, holding ducks or geese in their mouth like there dogs, laying down next to a deer and taking a selfie with it like they’re laying in bed with it, funneling beer through a deer carcass or when they did it through a goose neck and head. If 98%of the Facebook and Instagram hunters hung up the camera tomorrow we would be better off. Jesus Christ don’t even get me started on the fishing whores. I just don’t get any of it. It’s not a good look. And you can blow smoke up my skirt all you want but you’re not gonna tell me that this is a good thing.

 

[VenaticOppidan]

Just like any group of people, we will always have people that make us look like uneducated hillbilly assholes by things mentioned like hanging ducks by bills and out of gun barrels, and shotgunning beer through a dead deer or fish. Dumb. Disrespectful. We should not hide the prose we have in accomplishing a task and harvesting a trophy regardless of size. Nothing wrong with grip and grin when not done to ostracize the dead animal.

To the people saying hunting is now a rich mans game, it always has been. Read old books, look at the cultures established and different hunt clubs. It just so happens it is also very accessible to poor folks who, besides using it for adventure and socialization, use it as a primary method to feed their family, atleast in their home states.

I agree with a couple things said but not most. It seems a lot of people are upset that now the avg “poor” hunter figured out they can save 200 bucks a month and go chase a muley, elk, or pronghorn out west for a period of months, instead of only being able to hunt big game in most eastern states for a period of weeks.

These “new guys” mostly arent new guys at all. Been hunting their localities their whole lives. They are new to the western scene, and that really chaps some asses. Through shows like this they realized the adventure they fantasized about since they were 9 years old reading outdoor life is not only accessible, but can be done damn near yearly!

Someone is always gonna get rich. I have commented to many friends now how MeatEater is a capitalists wet dream, but i dont see where he is doing it wrong (besides putting his name on a few to many things). They have worked on a ton of projects to free up public land and make accessible millions of acres of landlocked public land.

By everything I’ve seen and heard, they are generally good people with sound morals who may who place an emphasis more on the process than the antlers/horns, with that being a bonus not the core objective. I’ve listened to people like Ben O’Brien who i don’t agree with on many subjects. We will never all have the same thoughts.

I understand point creep, and people being upset cause the amount of new non residents have diminished their odds of drawing certain districts, but that’s a good thing for these backwoods towns and expanding hunting as a whole. We can’t keep it to ourselves or we’ll lose it.

And i agree that social media as a whole is the downfall of man. Mainly the big 3. Insta, Facebook, and Twitter. But i can rant on that specifically another time.


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I pretty much hit all of your points and sentiments (which i share a lot of) earlier in the thread.

Unfortunately, we are about 1 of 5 states with very restricted or no Sunday hunting, a relic of the old days of blue laws. Up until this year, you could only hunt coyotes and crows on Sundays. This year they launched a program to make the last three Sundays in November hunting days., which are the last day of archery deer, only Sunday of bear season, and first Sunday of gun season.

Glockster, what state are you from/ hunting that you say the numbers are rising drastically?

 

[307]

Oh yes Steve is a man of the people hunting on public ground, doing it the hard way, except when he’s at the Wyoming one shot antelope hunt.

What does participating in One Shot have to do with anything?

 

[Rob5589]

Hunting shows have been around a long time. Anybody remember American Sportsman on Saturdays? The difference now is they seem to be a 30-60 minute infomercial about this gear and that gear. For all those guys now; Rinella, Eichler, Miranda, etc etc, their passion/hobby bloomed into a business. It is hard to separate the two when you have obligations to sponsors, commitments, etc.

 

[Cedarsavage]

If it wasn’t for rinella and randy newberg I probably wouldn’t have started hunting the west. Guess it’s good or bad depending on how you look at it. I work with a guy...npr, ultra lefty type. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, you get the point he’s not your typical hunter... Anyway a few years ago he called me everything but a child of god for wanting to hunt sandhill cranes. Year or so later he started watching meat eater on Netflix, now hunting’s not so bad, and he’s asking about hunting. Guess it comes down to would I rather have the woods to myself and have him against hunting, or share the woods and have him advocate for it.

 

[Dos Perros]

Guess it comes down to would I rather have the woods to myself and have him against hunting, or share the woods and have him advocate for it.

There is a correct answer to this question.

 

[Cedarsavage]

There is a correct answer to this question.

Lol. He lives a couple miles from one of my better hunting spots.

 

[RyanT26]

What does participating in One Shot have to do with anything?

It displays his hypocrisy.

 

[307]

It displays his hypocrisy.

How?

 

[VenaticOppidan]

What state did you say you hunted?


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[RyanT26]

I pretty much hit all of your points and sentiments (which i share a lot of) earlier in the thread.

Unfortunately, we are about 1 of 5 states with very restricted or no Sunday hunting, a relic of the old days of blue laws. Up until this year, you could only hunt coyotes and crows on Sundays. This year they launched a program to make the last three Sundays in November hunting days., which are the last day of archery deer, only Sunday of bear season, and first Sunday of gun season.

Glockster, what state are you from/ hunting that you say the numbers are rising drastically?

Kansas, I know KW&P said the were a spike in hunting and fishing license sales this year.

 

[RyanT26]

How?

By taking part in a invite only good ole boy and influencer hunt in premier antelope units. If there are 80 extra tags available in those units they shouldn’t go to a bunch of douche canoes who then dress up as Indian women if you lose the competition.

Lander's One Shot Antelope Hunt Faces Mounting Pressure To "Re-Write The Script"

Every September, 24 hunters gather in Lander and compete to see who can down an antelope with a single bullet. The One Shot Antelope Hunt is an…

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[mmw194287]

... I wonder if the books were more a result of his relationship with his wife’s family or his passion? Seems they were the medium most readily and immediately available to him, and having exploited them, he quickly diversified his efforts.

none of this is a critique, but the man is a shill from the word go.

Yeah, I'm sure the guy went and got a master's of fine arts in creative writing and then started a career as a writer for magazines, etc. and pulled together a book manuscript because it was the easiest way to sell branded knives and spice kits...

But maybe you know something I don't, because you seem to imply that he wrote a book because of his wife's family....which makes it hard to explain how he met her in the process of getting that book published. Or was that a cover story they made up after the fact?

Whatever you think of the current business model, it's definitely not what he set out to do when he pursued a graduate degree in the liberal arts. And to be perfectly clear, I'm not a "fan boy," I just think its ridiculous that people can't have a conversation on a topic where there are valid points to be made on both sides without someone just making stuff up out of thin air.

 

[307]

By taking part in a invite only good ole boy and influencer hunt in premier antelope units. If there are 80 extra tags available in those units they shouldn’t go to a bunch of douche canoes who then dress up as Indian women if you lose the competition.

Lander's One Shot Antelope Hunt Faces Mounting Pressure To "Re-Write The Script"

Every September, 24 hunters gather in Lander and compete to see who can down an antelope with a single bullet. The One Shot Antelope Hunt is an…

www.wyomingpublicmedia.org

I'm a little surprised that you'd reference sexism, classism, or racism in your reasoning, but to each their own.

 

[deerhunt1988]

Well, there is one thing we can all agree on.

Matt is one hilarious, goofy dude! The knife video he posted today has me rolling!

 

[Alaskanopolis]

Strange, because I read the first post minutes after it was made and it was right there. Plus, the whole “edited” note that shows up if it was changed, as mentioned. It’s ok, you can admit it. You never cared what the first (or any other) post said, you just wanted to scream liberal and turn the thread political.

I read it seconds after.

 

[Alaskanopolis]

Interesting. You can see when someone has edited a post because on the bottom it’ll say edited.

The original post hasn’t been edited. So that means it’s been there the whole time. It’s ok.

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Apparently you’ve never heard of hackers.

 

[Will_m]

Maybe in your western states. Pennsylvania in 1999 sold just under 1 million resident adult licenses, this year they sold about 558k. Demand has continued to drop year after year, you can look at the last 10, this was the first year with a slight uptick, many attribute that to adding a few Sundays we could hunt and a deer opener on a Saturday instead of a Monday.

I understand the frustration, but we do need hunters, we do need recruitment, even if 1/4 of these Instagram hunters stick with it, it will help. How long do you think they will manage game and throw money at programs and "allow" us to hunt if we are few and far between?

I would like to see how many of states total number of hunters, not non resident, has actually risen in the last 10 years, I am sure there is very few, if any.

Maybe nobody likes hunting Pennsylvania. I know that sort of decrease isn’t being seen in the west.

 

[VenaticOppidan]

Maybe nobody likes hunting Pennsylvania. I know that sort of decrease isn’t being seen in the west.

Sounds like thought out and logical response. No way one of the original states with a massive hunting following could be showing signs that are indicative of a larger trend.....

Post your states license numbers from 2000, then from 2020, and if there is an astronomical increase, I’ll concede.


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[KurtR]

Apparently you’ve never heard of hackers.

So some one hacked in and added Matt to it and it wasn’t there before? Sounds logical. Hey on a side note I have some ocean front property here in South Dakota I will give you a hell of a deal on. Let me know