Rifle scopes you'd love to see Form test

[Formidilosus]

Like it?

On paper, I like the 1-6x24 Zeiss V6 or Tract Toric, but I think you’d probably suggest otherwise?

That’s Schmidt would be one. No experience with the LPVO of Zeiss V6 or Tract.

 

[BRTreedogs]

That’s Schmidt would be one. No experience with the LPVO of Zeiss V6 or Tract.

Do I remember you saying the accupoints do well?
I'm considering the 3-9x40 on a couple rifle I want to keep slim, aka no tall turrets.

 

[Rifleman86]

Has he done the AMG 6-24x? I searched but couldn’t find the thread.

 

[SDHNTR]

Do I remember you saying the accupoints do well?
I'm considering the 3-9x40 on a couple rifle I want to keep slim, aka no tall turrets.

You know, I’d run with an Accupoint if it weren’t for the finite lifespan of that tritium dot. Don’t they only last 8-10 years or so? I got chonies older than that!

 

[Formidilosus]

Do I remember you saying the accupoints do well?
I'm considering the 3-9x40 on a couple rifle I want to keep slim, aka no tall turrets.

Haven’t used that model much.

 

[BRTreedogs]

You know, I’d run with an Accupoint if it weren’t for the finite lifespan of that tritium dot. Don’t they only last 8-10 years or so? I got chonies older than that!

Depends on the color, I think green is 12.
Yellow is lowest.

But it is what it it. The Optic will still have a cross hair and fiber optics.

You've been on the search way harder then I have. And im less picky then you..

What options are there they don't have tall turrets or a huge objective that actually work?

I don't even care about how heavy, ill put up with a reticle I don't like. Cost is definitely a concern.

But my coyote gun i need it to be fast and snag free. I want it to sit up front along my console with the butt under the armrest.

Based on what I've read the swfa 3-9 is about it. The turrets are bigger then id really want.

But if no single average scope will hold up then I guess I'll just have to buy a trijicon every 10 yrs.

Supposed the 2.5-15 credo is the next logical but its still slightly bulkier then I really want.

What I really want is basically a Vx2 3-9/4-12 but will actually work.

I feel like there are options for long range scopes.
And I totally understand Rokslide can't cater to testing everything.

But it just appears there is no good options for a regular old hunting rifle scope.

 

[freddyG]

What I really want is basically a Vx2 3-9/4-12 but will actually work.
But it just appears there is no good options for a regular old hunting rifle scope.

The nxs compacts are what you are looking for. Too bad all of the reticles except mil-r, and moar are discontinued. An Np-1 reticle would be about perfect.

 

[Formidilosus]

What I really want is basically a Vx2 3-9/4-12 but will actually work.

NF 3-10x SHV’s work.

 

[SDHNTR]

Depends on the color, I think green is 12.
Yellow is lowest.

But it is what it it. The Optic will still have a cross hair and fiber optics.

You've been on the search way harder then I have. And im less picky then you..

What options are there they don't have tall turrets or a huge objective that actually work?

I don't even care about how heavy, ill put up with a reticle I don't like. Cost is definitely a concern.

But my coyote gun i need it to be fast and snag free. I want it to sit up front along my console with the butt under the armrest.

Based on what I've read the swfa 3-9 is about it. The turrets are bigger then id really want.

But if no single average scope will hold up then I guess I'll just have to buy a trijicon every 10 yrs.

Supposed the 2.5-15 credo is the next logical but its still slightly bulkier then I really want.

What I really want is basically a Vx2 3-9/4-12 but will actually work.

I feel like there are options for long range scopes.
And I totally understand Rokslide can't cater to testing everything.

But it just appears there is no good options for a regular old hunting rifle scope.

Yep. Always a tradeoff. I could personally live with the giant turret on that SWFA 3X9, but the FFP aspect I cannot live with. Those huge Turrets are also my gripe with the Swarovski X5. Annoying and unnecessary it seems. Plenty of companies make quality turret and erector assemblies without them being oversized.

 

[SDHNTR]

NF 3-10x SHV’s work.

Yep, but they are so short that they may need a rail on some long/mag actions. Don’t love that idea either.

I miss the old Leupold!

 

[BRTreedogs]

NF 3-10x SHV’s work.

I have over looked this

 

[Formidilosus]

Yep, but they are so short that they may need a rail on some long/mag actions. Don’t love that idea either.

I miss the old Leupold!

A rail only hurts the looks for those who care. I’d suffer that long before junk optics. Kaps is worth looking at for normal scopes as well. I haven’t used the variables, however.

 

[BRTreedogs]

Yep. Always a tradeoff. I could personally live with the giant turret on that SWFA 3X9, but the FFP aspect I cannot live with. Those huge Turrets are also my gripe with the Swarovski X5. Annoying and unnecessary it seems. Plenty of companies make quality turret and erector assemblies without them being oversized.

I think they made a run of 3-15sfp. But probably pretty hard to find.
If the over all size doesn't bother you and you can find one.

 

[Dobermann]

Something lighter like the Trijicon Ascent 3-12x40.

For mag range and form factor, yes.

But SFP and with BDC reticle, it's not going to appeal to Form, or a lot of the rest of us here, or to Ryan's wish to test scopes suited to LR hunting.

 

[Dobermann]

I could personally live with the giant turret on that SWFA 3X9, but the FFP aspect I cannot live with.

Yes you can.

Come to the FFP Side.

Life will be easier, we promise.

 

[Lonewolf72]

For mag range and form factor, yes.

But SFP and with BDC reticle, it's not going to appeal to Form, or a lot of the rest of us here, or to Ryan's wish to test scopes suited to LR hunting.

I see what you are saying (Formidilosus has found scopes possessing certain characteristics to be reliable and preferred), but seems the Ascent could be a viable candidate for testing. The SHV 3-10x42 and NX 2.5-10x42 seem to be regularly recommended as rugged, repeatable hunting scopes that are SFP and MOA reticles without the typical target turrets.

Trijicon calls it a "BDC Target Hold Reticle", but in looking at the reticle diagram, it seems that the reticle has standard MOA hash marks (evenly spaced). They also claim "long range performance" for what that's worth...A guy can dream....

Not sure how the erector system would stand up to repeated dialing, but the combination of 17.8 oz. lighter weight, decent reticle, reasonable price point, good glass, 12x magnification and supposed "rugged" reputation could make it attractive to some if tracking and maintaining zero stand up to testing.

That said...I have SWFA 3-9x, LRTS 3-12x, LRHS 4.5-18x, DMR 3.5-21x, Accupoint 3-9x on my rifles, and love Tikkas! I look forward to the testing results. Carry on with the beatin' gentleman!

 

[Balderdash]

Yep, but they are so short that they may need a rail on some long/mag actions. Don’t love that idea either.

I miss the old Leupold!

I keep seeing this pop up in regards to the NF SHV 3-10 on long actions. I've mounted around 10 of this model of scope for myself and buddies, 8 on long actions, and none required a rail. There's a lot of options out there to get it done. Most commonly I use Warne extended front base; they are available in 3 lengths. The Burris Xtreme bases are another good option; thier extra slots allow for a little closer spacing and they are pic compatible. Leupold makes extended DD bases if you like a more traditional look. I no longer use them, but Talley LW can also be had in extended configurations. I'm sure there's other options as well.

Better yet, mount them on a Tikka. The ring spacing is perfect and their "rail" looks great.

 

[SDHNTR]

This is going on a magnum length M70. It's longer than a standard "long" action. This gun also has some odd spaced holes tapped in it (I bought it that way) that preclude me from using a commercially available pic rail. Plus I can't stand the thought of a rail on a M70.

It had extended 1" DD Leupold bases on it when I bought it with an older VX3 2.5-8. Worked fine, but I regretfully swapped that scope onto another rifle and sold it. I don't want to take the risk on a new Leupold. The tube length is similar to the SHV and NXS compact, but that Leup had a lot more eye relief, so it worked. The SHV, is close, but not perfect. It needs a rail.

 

[Balderdash]

This is going on a magnum length M70. It's longer than a standard "long" action. This gun also has some odd spaced holes tapped in it (I bought it that way) that preclude me from using a commercially available pic rail. Plus I can't stand the thought of a rail on a M70.

It had extended 1" DD Leupold bases on it when I bought it with an older VX3 2.5-8. Worked fine, but I regretfully swapped that scope onto another rifle and sold it. I don't want to take the risk on a new Leupold. The tube length is similar to the SHV and NXS compact, but that Leup had a lot more eye relief, so it worked. The SHV, is close, but not perfect. It needs a rail.

I see what you're after. I had a pile of 2.5-8 in service over the years. Always liked them. Were my go to scope for non dialing, SFP applications for years. Only had trouble with 1 out of over 20 I've had/have.

I know you've stated an aversion to FFP's, but on a M70 for which preserving more traditional aesthetics is important to you, but you still want something with solid capabilities, IMO an S&B Klassik 3-12 would look and function fantastic on there. IIRC, they offer a longer mounting space than the smaller NF's. Not sure how well that model would fair on a torture test, but by and large they seem to get good reviews for repeatability.

 

[roosiebull]

i am curious about some of the cheaper scopes... is swfa the only one out there, or are others out there too? the (Athlon helos BTR gen 2) 2-12x42 looks decent on paper 500-ish bucks is cheap enough i don't have high hopes, but never know