Rifle scopes you'd love to see Form test

[TX_Diver]

You can always buy Vortex...they have a great warranty

Can't buy them from Doug at Cameraland

I hadn't noticed that they weren't a trijicon dealer. Interesting point actually.

 

[BRTreedogs]

I can only speak to the RMR and RMR Type 2 red dots for warranty, however lots of us have had to send them in for warrenty over the years and I have never had to have a receipt or been given any hassle.

Supposedl ill quit being such a Karen and hit them up again.

 

[BjornF16]

Trijicon says "turret tolerances between product lines are the same. SFP and FFP completely different erector system"

 

[prm]

Trijicon says "turret tolerances between product lines are the same. SFP and FFP completely different erector system"

Now we have come full circle back to something relevant to the post title! We need an SFP Trijicon scope tested.

I hope the internals of the FFP Credo 2-10x36 are of similar design to the FFP Tenmile 3-18x44.

 

[ID_Matt]

Can we get some sort of sticker made? "Form drop test approved" or "Rokslide approved" similiar to Nightforce quality check stickers??

 

[Ryan Avery]

Like the cliff test shirt?

Shop

store.rokslide.com

 

[dirtytough]

@Ryan Avery curious what scope you would use on your rifle right now if you were going on a backcountry hunt. Also what scopes are on your personal list to test?

 

[PredatorSlayer]

Vx6hd 4-24x52

 

[Bbell12]

+1 for the Credo. For me, it’s between this one and the SHV for just a lightweight point and shoot scope with the Credo having a slight edge.

 

[Ryan Avery]

@Ryan Avery curious what scope you would use on your rifle right now if you were going on a backcountry hunt. Also what scopes are on your personal list to test?

I made a really long winded post but decided to keep this short and sweet. One of the main reasons Rokslide started was because of a scope review I read in a hunting magazine that was complete BS. I truly believe the drop test will change how scope companies make LR scopes. If you've been a RS member for awhile you will remember the backpack cliff test. I know that changed how some backpacking companies made frames because they told me so.

Right now on my rifles I am using two NX8 4-32, NXS 4.5-22 and two X5s. I have several other scopes but these are what I primary use for hunting. I would take any of these on a BC hunt.

IMO the companies above don't listen to the LR hunting community. That is why I think it's critical we keep talking to companies like Maven. They do listen and they can make the perfect LR Hunting scope or at least one that fills 90% of our needs.

Something else I wanted to address. I was sent a few links from other forums saying that I'm a NF shill. I've never gotten one scope from NF directly. I have paid for all of them. Lots of other optics companies pay RS for advertising NF is not one of them. So one could say its counter productive for me to use NF..... just saying!

Scopes I would like to see tested

Kahles 3.5-18
MK5 3.6-18 we have one on the way
Any ZCO
RS.5 retested
Riton 3-18
NF NX8 2.5-20


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[SDHNTR]

So Ryan,
You have to choose between the X5 and one of your Nightforces. Which one goes on the hunt and why?

 

[sndmn11]

IMO the companies above don't listen to the LR hunting community. That is why I think it's critical we keep talking to companies like Maven. They do listen and they can make the perfect LR Hunting scope or at least one that fills 90% of our needs.

This is why I didn't hesitate to openly test the RS.3. I think that there are some companies in the hunting realm who are out to make a buck however it comes, and there are some companies who look at that buck as a contract with the customer that the product is what they said it is. I think that Maven is the latter and a cool result will probably come out of these tests for them.

I have had two other companies tell me that going through the drop testing would be abuse, no scope would survive, and they would not warrant any damage. I do feel somewhat bad that, at least with the scope I have, their willingness to try may have had an undesirable immediate result. So, a whole lot of ballsy credit should go to them in my opinion. It cannot be an easy thing to, at least in my case, give someone the go-ahead to publicly try and find the failure point of one of your products. Again, kudos to them for that attitude.

I for one would like to see inexpensive scopes tried out, and I am going to see what I can buy with warranty assurances and keep at this, it is a lot of fun.

 

[BjornF16]

It would be nice to know which companies are afraid of the testing and won't warranty...

 

[Lawnboi]

Keep pushing for progress In the optics industry, I like it.

Fwiw since listening to a few people on here, Iv had way less rifle/scope problems. Iv also become a much more proficient shooter.

 

[sndmn11]

It would be nice to know which companies are afraid of the testing and won't warranty...

Email or call the manufacturers who interest you and have them watch one of those videos. Then ask them what their thoughts are, which scopes of theirs will pass, and what their position would be on damage from such testing or repair/replace/refund on zero loss.

Might gain oodles of insight.

 

[ljalberta]

Right now on my rifles I am using two NX8 4-32, NXS 4.5-22 and two X5s.

Are you going to put one of those X5s through the ringer?

And in terms of Maven, if they could produce a fixed 6 to compete with SWFA and a competitive FFP in 3-9, 4-12, or similar range in the 20oz weight range, I’d be a happy customer.

 

[JCMCUBIC]

.......

And in terms of Maven, if they could produce a fixed 6 to compete with SWFA and a competitive FFP in 3-9, 4-12, or similar range in the 20oz weight range, I’d be a happy customer.

I'll second ljalberta's suggestion on those scope model/size/powers for hunting with zero stopped elevation, capped windage, and a well designed reticle.

I'd love companies taking a clue on FFP hunting reticle design from Tangent Theta's LRH Mrad reticle. It's the best overall design I've used for all hunting situations, near/far, cover/open, and low light. Everything's a trade off on reticle design and everyone has their preferences...I really like this one.

 

[JCMCUBIC]

...and hat's off to Maven if they have the mindset to evaluate, identify, and fix scope design issues to make a more reliable product. That's great.

 

[HaydenLane]

I'll second ljalberta's suggestion on those scope model/size/powers for hunting with zero stopped elevation, capped windage, and a well designed reticle.

I'd love companies taking a clue on FFP hunting reticle design from Tangent Theta's LRH Mrad reticle. It's the best overall design I've used for all hunting situations, near/far, cover/open, and low light. Everything's a trade off on reticle design and everyone has their preferences...I really like this one.

I like that reticle. Not enough to spend TT money on a scope, but damn, I like it a lot. These other manufacturers need to take notes. Thick lines, no trees, 6 (at the most) mils of windage and holdover. It’s not hard.

 

[JCMCUBIC]

Here's some rough pics I took of the reticle a while back. Can't really see detail but gives you an idea. For reference the cow is 125 yards. Ignore the little glare circle on the bottom right of the lense...got a drop of condensation on it when I walked under the garage door.

3x - basic duplex

6x - tough to see in the pic but mil and 1/2 mil marks are easily usable

10x

15x