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Believe he’s talking about his home state.You believe you have a right to the game animals in another state at an affordable rate?
Believe he’s talking about his home state.You believe you have a right to the game animals in another state at an affordable rate?
I completely agree with you, if one wants to hunt for meat it is very affordable most places.You can believe whatever you want, but that doesn't change reality. You can mention all of the horrible things our federal government has done to education and healthcare and say you want them to do the same horrible things to managing animals...lol, I can't even respond to that! Hope you only enjoy hunting every 4 to 8 years when Republicans are in office!
And, my dude, you absolutely can come out to any western state and hunt for reasonable prices. You can hunt cows and does and small game and birds and have yourself a wonderful time and go home with plenty of meat for the freezer.... but let me guess: that isn't good enough for you, is it? You want antlers and you want them cheap. That's what this always boils down to.... it's ridiculous.
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I do believe I have a right to hunt public land in another state at a reasonable rate. Is that more unreasonable than those states with public land (esp US land) raping out of state hunters? The end of that game may well be a new federal approach to land management. Why not? We have nationalized education, healthcare and many other activities that used to be the sole responsibility of the states.
States like Texas should create public land so I can come hunt it. The feds can nationalize some of it if needed. Why not? Oh, don't forget to keep the rates reasonable or those of us from other states might have a tantrum and come to take more. After all, it "is a right to hunt at reasonable prices." (Satire)I reviewed my prior post and see no no judgement as to weather or not I think federal regulation of state lands is a good or bad idea. Just that I consider it a right to hunt at reasonable prices. If the western states are not careful about their policies they may well find politically strong states taking a look at what is happening and thinking about it. I also recall that the US Department of Education was initiated under Ronal Regan of all people. The atmosphere around DC is far more socialist today than during the 80s.
People who lived on the land had a tradition of hunting. Back when most of America farmed that was a lot of people. Now there are a lot of urbanites who like to pretend they live on the land without the sacrifices.Guys,
I'm really struggling with where hunting is going. Western Hunting, in particular, is quickly becoming a rich man's game. Do you know that in the state of Texas - you can almost not afford to hunt if you are a low income household. Between the lack of public land, cost of private land, and insane lease prices - it's absolutely a rich man's sport. And im not talking about for places to kill giants. Where I live, 5K/gun will get you a lease where you are allowed one whitetail that will score 135-150. As tag prices across states with public land quickly rise, I fear for my kids opportunities. They shouldn't have to move to a western state to be able to afford to hunt.
Where have gone the days of hunting with brothers and fathers and not having to spend a life savings to do so. Is that not getting ridiculous. To harvest food that is God-given to our society to cherish as nutrition yet is it carries the price tag of a Kings table fare. What are we going to do to slow this madness? What are possible solutions?
Just that I consider it a right to hunt at reasonable prices.
Do you hunt migratiry animals? Ducks, geese, sandhills?You believe you have a right to the game animals in another state at an affordable rate?
That’s not true. A know it all blowhard who is now rightfully banned from this place just repeated it enough that everyone takes it for established fact.Its super simple.
You can do what you want on the land within regulations.
The state owns the animals and can do what they want with them.
You dont have the right to the animals on the land. full stop.
The ESA is the only thing one needs to look at when the thought of Federal management of wildlife is a good thing comes to mind.That’s not true. A know it all blowhard who is now rightfully banned from this place just repeated it enough that everyone takes it for established fact.
https://www.umt.edu/bolle-center/federal-lands-wildlife/faqs.php
Yes, wildlife management is largely left up to the states. Yet the ESA is very much a thing and prevents WY/MT/ID from having a grizzly season. If what you are saying really was true, the ESA would have zero authority.
That’s not true. A know it all blowhard who is now rightfully banned from this place just repeated it enough that everyone takes it for established fact.
https://www.umt.edu/bolle-center/federal-lands-wildlife/faqs.php
Yes, wildlife management is largely left up to the states. Yet the ESA is very much a thing and prevents WY/MT/ID from having a grizzly season. If what you are saying really was true, the ESA would have zero authority.
I have been saying that for years. The west has sat around and laughed at all the other states about the things that have happened or they have done. While we were laughing, the same things were happening to our state.@CorbLand
Thevwestern hunting is gonna learn what eastern hunters have dealt with for many years. It all comes down to population density.
Not saying it’s a good thing, not at all.The ESA is the only thing one needs to look at when the thought of Federal management of wildlife is a good thing comes to mind.