Relocating Family to Argentina

[gbflyer]

What does a homeschooled person being awkward as an adult or homeschooled kids being “different” have to do with our local public school system being “fantastic”???!

It most definitely is not fantastic in any way shape or form! I can tell you though that like most home schooling proponents say “you get out of it what you put into it” the exact same thing can be said of public schools.

My wife and i are VERY involved and proactive with our sons school. I spend i bet 2hrs on average a night working with him to make sure he is understanding and actually learning what is being taught to him in school. His grades are excellent and i have no doubt he will be well prepared going into adulthood.

If you’re a parent that doesn’t make time for your kids because you’re busy “living your best life” for yourself your kids will not reach their full potential. Being a parent makes things not just about you and your desires anymore. Sadly a ton of parents nowadays would disagree with that sentiment.

You absolutely need to put in extra time with kids in public schools. Where kids fall behind nowadays is when the parents leave it all to be done by the schools. Home time is largely everyone staring at their preferred devices all evening, phones, social media, video games, etc. Kids from those homes are destined to fall behind.

All that being said socialization in a child’s early years is critically important. It will dictate how they carry themselves their entire lives. It’s just as important part of school as the grades are.

Amen


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[Mojave]

My nephew is Autistic, so is my grand niece and her brother my other grand nephew. None of them were homeschooled, all of them have social problems. My grand niece would slit your throat while you sleep with zero remorse. I don't know how she isn't locked up.

My own children have been both homeschooled and not depending on the needs of our family. My wife is a k-12 school certified school teacher in 4 states. She is currently working and they are in school.

Of my four daughters two get a long with everyone and two are awkward. They make friends, it just takes them a while.

Is this a product of living all over the world and having to move, being homeschooled partially or is it just them? I think it is just them.

A lot of things can make people cagey, or weird or socially awkward.

I have a guy that works for me that was a H-64 Apache pilot for 18 years in the Army. He is about as socially awkward as they come.

Of the 8 people on my team, he is not the only weird one. Everyone went to public school. Including immigrants from Costa Rica and everyone one but me and another guy were officers in the US Army or Air force. Both the other guy and I had careers as enlisted people.

I am publiclly friendly, but sometimes awkward and I prefer to be alone. The gal that works for me was a LTCOL. She was a bio-med science officer in the Air Force and she is also sociallly awkward. Mid 50's good looking and never been married. She says she never figured out men, then she got too old.

A lot of people are weird. You don't have to go to home school to be weird.

I think a lot of homeschoolers get a bad wrap for being weird because they are not tainted. They have not slept with 20 people by the time they graduated high school.

The neighbor ranch kids on both sides of our place in Montana growing up had home school kids. Out of the three neighbor boys the oldest was awkward but went on to work his way into owning his own logging company before he retired.

The other side had a Jehovah's witness family, and they had a daughter that I was never allowed to talk to. So I would go ride my horse up against her fence and she would come out and talk to me in the mornings. She married the first boy she knew after graduation and could get out of there.

 

[RockAndSage]

You obviously home school. Wish your kids the best of luck in life - they have a tough road ahead.

This is horsesh*t. About half of the highest performing kids I know are homeschooled to varying degrees, and they are a genuine delight and joy to be around. The awkward ones generally come from awkward parents, but they're a distinct minority - and are certainly not greater percentage-wise than what you'd find for awkward kids in any public school.

 

[PredatorSlayer]

This is horsesh*t. About half of the highest performing kids I know are homeschooled to varying degrees, and they are a genuine delight and joy to be around. The awkward ones generally come from awkward parents, but they're a distinct minority - and are certainly not greater percentage-wise than what you'd find for awkward kids in any public school.

How do you know they are high performing if they are homeschooled?

 

[RockAndSage]

How do you know they are high performing if they are homeschooled?

Because they are getting into Ivy League schools, Oxford, the US service academies, getting books published as teenagers, operating in the SOF community at every level, and a number of them started their own successful businesses before they even turned 18. And those are just the ones I know. There's also homeschooled Olympians, and professional athletes.

 

[PredatorSlayer]

Because they are getting into Ivy League schools, Oxford, the US service academies, getting books published as teenagers, operating in the SOF community at every level, and a number of them started their own successful businesses before they even turned 18. And those are just the ones I know. There's also homeschooled Olympians, and professional athletes.

You are talking about exceptions to the homeschooling rule. Two of my sisters homeschool and I have been around dozens of others. Maybe some will go on to do great things, but they are still weird as hell. I know high demand religions like mormonism and Jehovah’s Witnesses have trended towards homeschooling to isolate their kids from the world.

 

[RockAndSage]

You are talking about exceptions to the homeschooling rule. Two of my sisters homeschool and I have been around dozens of others. Maybe some will go on to do great things, but they are still weird as hell. I know high demand religions like mormonism and Jehovah’s Witnesses have trended towards homeschooling to isolate their kids from the world.

It's fascinating reading what you keep writing about homeschooling - it's like watching someone barf up every negative stereotype they've ever heard about it, while ignoring all the benefits and anything positive about it that someone offers.

I made a statement about "half the highest performing kids I know", not half the kids I know. Their outcomes are quite clearly high performing - and I guarantee that you won't find that level of success per capita out of a random public school. The homeschoolers I know are, as a population, better educated, less toxic, better thinking, and more interesting as people than most of the public school kids I meet (and many of those are awesome kids). And every one of their parents care immensely about their kids success, and education. That matters too. It's not a pool of feral "unschoolers". It's high performers.

Homeschooling is what you make of it. So if all you see are morons and weirdos in your pool, that says more about your pool than it does homeschooling.

 

[EdP]

The OP didn't ask about the pros and cons of home schooling, but rather his idea of moving to Argentina. Home schooling is an interesting subject but perhaps we should talk about the pros and cons of moving to Argentina in this thread and start a separate thread about home schooling.

Your comments on the war “ This is the country that tried to take the Falkland Islands from the UK by force in the 1980s.“ don’t reflect the people there.

It doesn't reflect the people there? Really? Well then, who exactly does it reflect on? If nothing else it reflects on the political situation there and how fragile and unstable it is. That is not a situation that I would take a young family into.

 

[PredatorSlayer]

The OP didn't ask about the pros and cons of home schooling, but rather his idea of moving to Argentina. Home schooling is an interesting subject but perhaps we should talk about the pros and cons of moving to Argentina in this thread and start a separate thread about home schooling

Its all related unless he is going to throw his kids in public school in agentina.

 

[IdahoBeav]

It’s hilarious that people are still questioning home schooling given the public school circus that has been on full display in recent years.


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[SchwarzStock]

Germany is not an easy place to live and the shine fades quickly. It’s notoriously difficult to fit in there, make German friends, speak the language etc. I’m not talking about ex military transitioning to government positions on a base, or the military itself, but true Germany outside and away from the military bases.

Argentina will be much easier. I’d take it over Germany any day of the week. In saying that, there are plenty of them down there annd you run into them in the strangest places. You will see more German culture closer to the Andes you get, even into Chile. In the capital and throughout, the people look and have the vibe of Italians, as most are, and it shows.

Have you made this transition yourself or are you repeating rumors like "its almost impossible to own guns in Germany"....

 

[SchwarzStock]

I have never been to South America, or Antartica for that matter. But I have been most everywhere else. 7-15 countries per continent. I have known a lot of Argentinians when I lived in Spain. The people are very European looking. I don't think there is was as much mixing with the local population as there was in Northern South America or Mexico.

I don't know if it will be easier than Germany or not. Most Germans can speak some level of English.

All I am saying is that for those that have never lived overseas, every country even English speaking ones brings challenges that most people don't think of. Most of the time they are bloody easy to figure out, or you just do with out.

I have lived in Canada and Australia. I wouldn't say that Canada was a challenge at all. Australia had some weird things.

I don't know about the new 51st State but I have lived/worked in more than 40 countries over the past 40 years. They are all different. Ok, not were all places I would take a family but as Mojave said they are all different.

My kids went to public schools in Germany and the US. My ex-wife who was a German school teacher and later school administrator in a US school said the outcome after 12 years was virtually identical, the big difference was just the timing of the instruction, when came what. In Germany we could have home schooled or send them to a DODDS school or the Internat but did not want to deprive the kids of the social contact of having friends and school comrads in the neighborhood.