Relocating Family to Argentina

[gbflyer]

What does a homeschooled person being awkward as an adult or homeschooled kids being “different” have to do with our local public school system being “fantastic”???!

It most definitely is not fantastic in any way shape or form! I can tell you though that like most home schooling proponents say “you get out of it what you put into it” the exact same thing can be said of public schools.

My wife and i are VERY involved and proactive with our sons school. I spend i bet 2hrs on average a night working with him to make sure he is understanding and actually learning what is being taught to him in school. His grades are excellent and i have no doubt he will be well prepared going into adulthood.

If you’re a parent that doesn’t make time for your kids because you’re busy “living your best life” for yourself your kids will not reach their full potential. Being a parent makes things not just about you and your desires anymore. Sadly a ton of parents nowadays would disagree with that sentiment.

You absolutely need to put in extra time with kids in public schools. Where kids fall behind nowadays is when the parents leave it all to be done by the schools. Home time is largely everyone staring at their preferred devices all evening, phones, social media, video games, etc. Kids from those homes are destined to fall behind.

All that being said socialization in a child’s early years is critically important. It will dictate how they carry themselves their entire lives. It’s just as important part of school as the grades are.

Amen


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[Mojave]

My nephew is Autistic, so is my grand niece and her brother my other grand nephew. None of them were homeschooled, all of them have social problems. My grand niece would slit your throat while you sleep with zero remorse. I don't know how she isn't locked up.

My own children have been both homeschooled and not depending on the needs of our family. My wife is a k-12 school certified school teacher in 4 states. She is currently working and they are in school.

Of my four daughters two get a long with everyone and two are awkward. They make friends, it just takes them a while.

Is this a product of living all over the world and having to move, being homeschooled partially or is it just them? I think it is just them.

A lot of things can make people cagey, or weird or socially awkward.

I have a guy that works for me that was a H-64 Apache pilot for 18 years in the Army. He is about as socially awkward as they come.

Of the 8 people on my team, he is not the only weird one. Everyone went to public school. Including immigrants from Costa Rica and everyone one but me and another guy were officers in the US Army or Air force. Both the other guy and I had careers as enlisted people.

I am publiclly friendly, but sometimes awkward and I prefer to be alone. The gal that works for me was a LTCOL. She was a bio-med science officer in the Air Force and she is also sociallly awkward. Mid 50's good looking and never been married. She says she never figured out men, then she got too old.

A lot of people are weird. You don't have to go to home school to be weird.

I think a lot of homeschoolers get a bad wrap for being weird because they are not tainted. They have not slept with 20 people by the time they graduated high school.

The neighbor ranch kids on both sides of our place in Montana growing up had home school kids. Out of the three neighbor boys the oldest was awkward but went on to work his way into owning his own logging company before he retired.

The other side had a Jehovah's witness family, and they had a daughter that I was never allowed to talk to. So I would go ride my horse up against her fence and she would come out and talk to me in the mornings. She married the first boy she knew after graduation and could get out of there.

 

[RockAndSage]

You obviously home school. Wish your kids the best of luck in life - they have a tough road ahead.

This is horsesh*t. About half of the highest performing kids I know are homeschooled to varying degrees, and they are a genuine delight and joy to be around. The awkward ones generally come from awkward parents, but they're a distinct minority - and are certainly not greater percentage-wise than what you'd find for awkward kids in any public school.

 

[PredatorSlayer]

This is horsesh*t. About half of the highest performing kids I know are homeschooled to varying degrees, and they are a genuine delight and joy to be around. The awkward ones generally come from awkward parents, but they're a distinct minority - and are certainly not greater percentage-wise than what you'd find for awkward kids in any public school.

How do you know they are high performing if they are homeschooled?

 

[RockAndSage]

How do you know they are high performing if they are homeschooled?

Because they are getting into Ivy League schools, Oxford, the US service academies, getting books published as teenagers, operating in the SOF community at every level, and a number of them started their own successful businesses before they even turned 18. And those are just the ones I know. There's also homeschooled Olympians, and professional athletes.

 

[PredatorSlayer]

Because they are getting into Ivy League schools, Oxford, the US service academies, getting books published as teenagers, operating in the SOF community at every level, and a number of them started their own successful businesses before they even turned 18. And those are just the ones I know. There's also homeschooled Olympians, and professional athletes.

You are talking about exceptions to the homeschooling rule. Two of my sisters homeschool and I have been around dozens of others. Maybe some will go on to do great things, but they are still weird as hell. I know high demand religions like mormonism and Jehovah’s Witnesses have trended towards homeschooling to isolate their kids from the world.

 

[RockAndSage]

You are talking about exceptions to the homeschooling rule. Two of my sisters homeschool and I have been around dozens of others. Maybe some will go on to do great things, but they are still weird as hell. I know high demand religions like mormonism and Jehovah’s Witnesses have trended towards homeschooling to isolate their kids from the world.

It's fascinating reading what you keep writing about homeschooling - it's like watching someone barf up every negative stereotype they've ever heard about it, while ignoring all the benefits and anything positive about it that someone offers.

I made a statement about "half the highest performing kids I know", not half the kids I know. Their outcomes are quite clearly high performing - and I guarantee that you won't find that level of success per capita out of a random public school. The homeschoolers I know are, as a population, better educated, less toxic, better thinking, and more interesting as people than most of the public school kids I meet (and many of those are awesome kids). And every one of their parents care immensely about their kids success, and education. That matters too. It's not a pool of feral "unschoolers". It's high performers.

Homeschooling is what you make of it. So if all you see are morons and weirdos in your pool, that says more about your pool than it does homeschooling.

 

[EdP]

The OP didn't ask about the pros and cons of home schooling, but rather his idea of moving to Argentina. Home schooling is an interesting subject but perhaps we should talk about the pros and cons of moving to Argentina in this thread and start a separate thread about home schooling.

Your comments on the war “ This is the country that tried to take the Falkland Islands from the UK by force in the 1980s.“ don’t reflect the people there.

It doesn't reflect the people there? Really? Well then, who exactly does it reflect on? If nothing else it reflects on the political situation there and how fragile and unstable it is. That is not a situation that I would take a young family into.

 

[PredatorSlayer]

The OP didn't ask about the pros and cons of home schooling, but rather his idea of moving to Argentina. Home schooling is an interesting subject but perhaps we should talk about the pros and cons of moving to Argentina in this thread and start a separate thread about home schooling

Its all related unless he is going to throw his kids in public school in agentina.

 

[IdahoBeav]

It’s hilarious that people are still questioning home schooling given the public school circus that has been on full display in recent years.


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[SchwarzStock]

Germany is not an easy place to live and the shine fades quickly. It’s notoriously difficult to fit in there, make German friends, speak the language etc. I’m not talking about ex military transitioning to government positions on a base, or the military itself, but true Germany outside and away from the military bases.

Argentina will be much easier. I’d take it over Germany any day of the week. In saying that, there are plenty of them down there annd you run into them in the strangest places. You will see more German culture closer to the Andes you get, even into Chile. In the capital and throughout, the people look and have the vibe of Italians, as most are, and it shows.

Have you made this transition yourself or are you repeating rumors like "its almost impossible to own guns in Germany"....

 

[SchwarzStock]

I have never been to South America, or Antartica for that matter. But I have been most everywhere else. 7-15 countries per continent. I have known a lot of Argentinians when I lived in Spain. The people are very European looking. I don't think there is was as much mixing with the local population as there was in Northern South America or Mexico.

I don't know if it will be easier than Germany or not. Most Germans can speak some level of English.

All I am saying is that for those that have never lived overseas, every country even English speaking ones brings challenges that most people don't think of. Most of the time they are bloody easy to figure out, or you just do with out.

I have lived in Canada and Australia. I wouldn't say that Canada was a challenge at all. Australia had some weird things.

I don't know about the new 51st State but I have lived/worked in more than 40 countries over the past 40 years. They are all different. Ok, not were all places I would take a family but as Mojave said they are all different.

My kids went to public schools in Germany and the US. My ex-wife who was a German school teacher and later school administrator in a US school said the outcome after 12 years was virtually identical, the big difference was just the timing of the instruction, when came what. In Germany we could have home schooled or send them to a DODDS school or the Internat but did not want to deprive the kids of the social contact of having friends and school comrads in the neighborhood.

 

[Coveyleader]

Have you made this transition yourself or are you repeating rumors like "its almost impossible to own guns in Germany"....

Why would I have written it, if I didn’t have experience with it? It would be interesting to get the numbers from different HR departments on how many in and out moves they’ve had to fund over the years on non German citizens.

 

[prm]

Seems like a no-brainer to me. If it isn’t what you hoped for just come back.

 

[SchwarzStock]

Why would I have written it, if I didn’t have experience with it? It would be interesting to get the numbers from different HR departments on how many in and out moves they’ve had to fund over the years on non German citizens.

Because thats what people do, talk about and give opinions about things they have not lived.

 

[EcoastDG]

I have tons of family in Paraguay and Argentina. Both my brother and sister were born in Argentina. I go down there once a year to visit my mom. Argentina seems to be headed down the right path politically, but there is a lot of work to be done as the result of rampant corruption (This is true of all SA). If you have money saved or have plenty of disposable income, Argentina is a great place to live. Vehicles, computers, etc can be pretty expensive. I couldn't tell you about rent/mortgage because most of my family's/relatives' properties have been in the family for generations. Quality food is pretty cheap compared to the US, especially the best beef in the world.

I would suggest talking to someone from the US State Department that specializes in Argentina (US Embassy in Argentina is a good start). They can walk you through any questions regarding teleworking, local taxes, schooling etc.

Argentina is very similar to the US geographically. It has beautiful mountains, plains, wine country, beaches etc. Alot to explore and enjoy.

The people down there are very hospitable to outsiders, especially Americans. As long as you acknowledge Messi is the best soccer player in the world and cheer for the Argentina's national team when they play, you will fit right in. And BOCA is the right answer to the "River or Boca?" question.


As far as the homeschool thing. My wife and I homeschool our kids. The public school system in our area is pretty liberal and the education is mediocre. My sister lives in more conservative area and the public schools there are pretty good. I wouldn't hesitate to send my kids to public school if we lived there.

My kids are active in club sports throughout the year and their church youth group is always out doing stuff. We also have a pretty active homeschool community group. My wife and I went to public school and my kids do loads more social activities than we ever did growing up. I played every sport and worked for my dad's business so I never had a social life

 

[SchwarzStock]

Are you advocating for home schooling in MD or Argentina?

 

[EcoastDG]

Are you advocating for home schooling in MD or Argentina?

Just sharing my own experience with homeschooling. Education is a personal choice. Just like cartridge choice; Just use/do what works best for you. Homeschooling is not for everyone, but everyone knows the 7 SAUM is the best cartridge there is I actually love using my 6mm Remington too lol.

If I were living in Argentina and my kids were that young I would probably just enroll them in the local system. Kids are resilient and they will adapt quickly. Just like the States it depends on the area. A couple of my cousins are teachers and most if not all can communicate in English.

 

[SchwarzStock]

Just sharing my own experience with homeschooling. Education is a personal choice. Just like cartridge choice; Just use/do what works best for you. Homeschooling is not for everyone, but everyone knows the 7 SAUM is the best cartridge there is I actually love using my 6mm Remington too lol.

If I were living in Argentina and my kids were that young I would probably just enroll them in the local system. Kids are resilient and they will adapt quickly. Just like the States it depends on the area. A couple of my cousins are teachers and most if not all can communicate in English.

You are wrong, the best is 7.62 NATO followed by the 338 Laupa!