Rangefinding Binos with Ballistics vs without?

[MThuntr]

Hey guys. I'm eyeing the Leica Rangefinding Binos without ballistics display. It seems my process would benefit from them integrated but not sure I want to drop an extra grand on the fancier ones

Any of you guys using rangefinding binos without ballistics wish you'd chosen with ballistics?

 

[hereinaz]

How far do you shoot?
How fast do you need to shoot after ranging?

Those are the two questions I run through. Most choose ballistics in the binos or a Bluetooth to another device.

In the moments before pressing the trigger, IMO, there is a tremendous mental load that should be reduced with efficient technology and practice to make parts of the shooting process automatic.

If you have all the time, then automatic doesn’t matter as much.

Or, if you are only shooting to 450, you can memorize that easy enough.

 

[handwerk]

I’ve had several generations of both swaro and Leica with onboard ballistics but not being a long range hunter (500 yards and in) I settled for the the simpler tool and have been very satisfied with my Geovids.
My sons both have the newest Geovid R’a and have been very pleased with them.
With Doug at Cameraland having the 10x42’s for $1200 it’s a heck of a deal.

 

[JohnJohnson]

In the moments before pressing the trigger, IMO, there is a tremendous mental load that should be reduced with efficient technology and practice to make parts of the shooting process automatic.

I still need to work on this heavily.

 

[IChaseCoues]

You should buy the Revic BLR10b so I can try them out......

 

[gearguywb]

I have had both and settled on the Leica pros with calculator.

IMHO, it doesn’t make sense on a longer shot, to range, then pick up another device to give you the hold.

Used it agin this year on elk. Works very well for me much to the elk’s chagrin

 

[repins05]

How far do you shoot?
How fast do you need to shoot after ranging?

Those are the two questions I run through. Most choose ballistics in the binos or a Bluetooth to another device.

In the moments before pressing the trigger, IMO, there is a tremendous mental load that should be reduced with efficient technology and practice to make parts of the shooting process automatic.

If you have all the time, then automatic doesn’t matter as much.

Or, if you are only shooting to 450, you can memorize that easy enough.

Agree 100 percent

 

[Rooster1970$]

Agree

 

[ztc92]

I have had both and settled on the Leica pros with calculator.

IMHO, it doesn’t make sense on a longer shot, to range, then pick up another device to give you the hold.

Used it agin this year on elk. Works very well for me much to the elk’s chagrin

Assuming you are going to use a second device to get your drop and dial, then I agree, having ballistics on board would be a large advantage and worth the extra money.

That said, if you learn to shoot mils and use quick drop, then even under stress you’ll be able to easily calculate your drop faster than the rangefinder can provide it and MUCH faster than using a second device. In that scenario, I’d say the range finding binos that don’t provide a solution would NOT be a handicap.

As an example, I was fortunate to get the leica 10x32 Pros as a gift, but after learning quick drop, I never use the solution they provide, I use them only for an accurate range and do the calculation for elevation in my head, then dial and shoot. Whole process takes < 3 seconds, which is about as fast as waiting for the Leica solution.

If you’re not familiar with quick drop or mils, let us know and we can show you the way.