Rancher charged in attempted stealing of elk horns from helicopter hunters

[KenLee]

All of the wardens I know would dearly love to ticket a Rancher/ outfitter that is breaking the law. Could have more of an issue at the County Attorney.

If its lack of prosecution, the warden should quit and stop taking taxpayer $ for accomplishing nothing. None will because of their backsratching fringe benefits.

 

[wind gypsy]

I think that’s point the dude was making the whole time.

Yeah, i think it was left open to interpretation. Pissed about your gravy train ride coming to an end, i get it. Pissed at the hunters, less so.

 

[mtblackdog]

just wow...

I know the rancher well. The Delap family are good people and a generational ranch family not move in big money and there is more to this story. Those guys that flew in there are shit heads. They got caught trespassing on my brother laws ranch shed hunting, they snuck in, in the fog. The got to walk with a warning. The whole community knows they are outlaws. So when Bret saw them it was an easy assumption. The whole damn area is pissed off. This isnt like the corner crossing case. This is severely gonna damage hunter landowner relationships in that whole region. I was just down there and alot ranchers are gonna pull public access if he gets convicted. Including about 30,000 acres in my family. I have no skin in this. But this is deeper than Bret just hiding an elk and making a point.

 

[KenLee]

I know the rancher well. The Delap family are good people and a generational ranch family not move in big money and there is more to this story. Those guys that flew in there are shit heads. They got caught trespassing on my brother laws ranch shed hunting, they snuck in, in the fog. The whole community knows they are outlaws. So when Bret saw them it was an easy assumption. The whole damn area is pissed off. This isnt like the corner crossing case. This is severely gonna damage hunter landowner relationships in that whole region. I was just down there and alot ranchers are gonna pull public access if he gets convicted. Including about 30,000 acres in my family. I have no skin in this. But this us deeper than Bret just hiding an elk and making a point.

Talk to us Paul Harvey!
We love "the rest of the story".

 

[mtblackdog]

Talk to us Paul Harvey!
We love "the rest of the story".

I pretty much summed it up. Those boys are known to be shady as hell. Like I said big fallout coming from this one in the Wyoming and southern Montana ranch communities allowing people in to hunt next year. The Delap's are a 6 generation ranch family and highly respected. Gonna be a whole lot less private land access going forward. And flying in there will probably mean competing with 500 head of cattle Im hearing. No grass no elk. This is gonna straight to the top legislatively and legally. Its a shitshow for sure.

 

[mt terry d]

What exactly do you mean by “pull public access “?

 

[Q_Sertorius]

I pretty much summed it up. Those boys are known to be shady as hell. Like I said big fallout coming from this one in the Wyoming and southern Montana ranch communities allowing people in to hunt next year. The Delap's are a 6 generation ranch family and highly respected. Gonna be a whole lot less private land access going forward. And flying in there will probably mean competing with 500 head of cattle Im hearing. No grass no elk. This is gonna straight to the top legislatively and legally. Its a shitshow for sure.

Real classy. “If I can’t charge money for you to access public land, I will destroy the resource to make money with cattle.” Sounds about right.

 

[Jon Boy]

Sounds like a real respectable ranch family to me i also have a real hard time believing the gomers in that video were trespassing in the fog for sheds but then decide to charter a helicopter to hunt.

 

[StupidLightweight]

Those guys that flew in there are shit heads. They got caught trespassing on my brother laws ranch shed hunting, they snuck in, in the fog. The got to walk with a warning. The whole community knows they are outlaws.

This isn't remotely true, but if it were, your brother-in-law should have pressed charges on anyone trespassing on his land. If it was the notorious Foggy Antler Crew, the rancher should have confronted them instead of stealing an elk head. In my mind, the act of taking the antlers proves that he knew they weren't doing anything illegal.

Like I said big fallout coming from this one in the Wyoming and southern Montana ranch communities allowing people in to hunt next year...Gonna be a whole lot less private land access going forward. And flying in there will probably mean competing with 500 head of cattle Im hearing. No grass no elk. This is gonna straight to the top legislatively and legally.

I don't think you realize how poorly this comes across. The facts are simple: rancher stole, got caught, and has been charged. Yet you claim there will be a "big fallout" for the hunting community, with the public losing access to tens of thousands of acres of private land. Next, you state the rancher will punish the elk herd by overgrazing the land!

Come on. Do you even believe this nonsense, or are you just running cover for a thieving rancher who got his long johns in a twist because guys hunted landlocked public land that he feels he owns?

 

[spike camp]

Well color me surprised.

 

[squid-freshprints]

I know the rancher well. The Delap family are good people and a generational ranch family not move in big money and there is more to this story. Those guys that flew in there are shit heads. They got caught trespassing on my brother laws ranch shed hunting, they snuck in, in the fog. The got to walk with a warning. The whole community knows they are outlaws. So when Bret saw them it was an easy assumption. The whole damn area is pissed off. This isnt like the corner crossing case. This is severely gonna damage hunter landowner relationships in that whole region. I was just down there and alot ranchers are gonna pull public access if he gets convicted. Including about 30,000 acres in my family. I have no skin in this. But this is deeper than Bret just hiding an elk and making a point.

these "good people" sure do engage in criminal behavior. and with Karen like entitlement also! real salt of the earth types I'm sure.

 

[Flat Range]

I don't think you realize how poorly this comes across. The facts are simple: rancher stole, got caught, and has been charged.

^^^ This!! Regardless of speculative narrative or intent by either party, these are the facts.

 

[KenLee]

S

Real classy. “If I can’t charge money for you to access public land, I will destroy the resource to make money with cattle.” Sounds about right.

Sounds legit

 

[KenLee]

Sounds like a real respectable ranch family to me i also have a real hard time believing the gomers in that video were trespassing in the fog for sheds but then decide to charter a helicopter to hunt.

Alot of "I'll show him" behavior going around.

 

[Flat Range]

Alot of "I'll show him" behavior going around.

100%

 

[spike camp]

Sounds like a real respectable ranch family to me i also have a real hard time believing the gomers in that video were trespassing in the fog for sheds but then decide to charter a helicopter to hunt.

What’s so tough to believe about the gomers?
I’m mean, you’re going through the trouble to helicopter into a spot, just on a whim?
How’d they know this was the spot to charter an aircraft for?

 

[Team4LongGun]

If its lack of prosecution, the warden should quit and stop taking taxpayer $ for accomplishing nothing. None will because of their backsratching fringe benefits.

Your comments are slanderous, broad brushed and narrow minded. Saying "None" or "all" wardens are corrupt and criminal is ridiculous.

If you have a specific point, make it. If your going to just attack and accuse an entire workforce-take it elsewhere.


A factual discussion is welcome, opinions are as well. Blatant, unfounded accusations are not.

 

[Kurts86]

There is pretty large reckoning going on out west as many ranch’s effectively control as many or more public acres as deeded acres but modern mapping and public land awareness challenge portions of it. Tags are harder to get and that pushes people to get creative and bolder. The characters change but the issues don’t.

I’ve seen it first hand getting yelled at by a private land outfitter telling me I trespassed over a decade ago when I had onx maps and they were unaware of their own micro boundaries and thought no one would walk 4x as far and shoot a narrowpublic land bridge to get to their honey hole.

I get it’s a harsh place to live and a harder place to make a living but the attitude of the land owners and their surrogates is consistently poor.

At a high level these land locked pieces are best dealt with by easements or fair market land swaps. I hope that some of those initiatives fix some of these inaccessible chunks.

 

[2Stamp]

...
I’m mean, you’re going through the trouble to helicopter into a spot, just on a whim?
How’d they know this was the spot to charter an aircraft for?

That's easy. It's widely know that there are some really good elk up in that area. Many locals here know the outfitter/guides/ family in that area and see the pictures. And the one guy has spent his whole life in this county. It's not rocket science.

 

[StupidLightweight]

That's easy. It's widely know that there are some really good elk up in that area. Many locals here know the outfitter/guides/ family in that area and see the pictures. And the one guy has spent his whole life in this county. It's not rocket science.

It’s definitely not rocket science. In fact, I’m amazed at the number of things you can stumble upon while shed hunting in the fog. Hell, that’s how I met my first wife.